Re: [AISdiscuss] #3 of 6

[Terry Aitken <terry@flowerfantasy.net>]

I beg your pardon?
   I obtained bids from 4 bidders last year. All parties were sent 
copies of the bulletin and specific quantities to bid on.
Interestingly enough, the Hong Kong bidder (who does the AIS calendar) 
figured  paper weight at 113 Grams per square meter and he assures me 
that it is approximately 75# paper. (He figured the coves much heavier 
and I will get back to him on that.)
    Paper qualities can vary considerably in price and surface even at 
the same weight. Quite frankly, when I have been shown samples of these 
various papers by our local publishers, I cannot tell them apart. -and 
we have changed papers a couple of times as a cost saving maneuver. 
Generally everybody is bidding 80# dull covers with 80# dull interior 
pages, then offering a 70# interior paper as a cost saving alternative. 
Some bidders have used the term "commercial" but I have not figured out 
it's significance.
   There is nothing magical about these bids other than figuring out 
what they left out or included in the service. I am asking questions 
now, as I did last year. Estimated time of delivery will also be 
included. Quality of service is subjective and time consuming.
Should I be so foolish as to complete this "voluntary" assignment, 
again, I shall invite Mr. Morris and Mr. Pries to eat their copies of 
the spreadsheet at the board meeting, thereby signifying to all present, 
that they did, indeed, recieve a copy.
   Jim, we have been using Bridgetown Printing Company in Portland for 
approximately 7 years. We had 2 other publishers in Portland before 
that. I cannot fathom why this tidbit of information is of significance 
to you. It is actually printed on page one of every bulletin. During 
those years, the cost of publishing has actually gone down. Part of this 
is because we have settled into a familiar and predictable pattern of 
activity. Partly, we have gone to an annual agreement with them rather 
than quarterly.
   Mr. Pries ---"judge not others --". Controlling color quality is of 
paramount importance . It does not happen by long distance. I cannot 
imagine doing what we do by mail.
Terry



bfilardi@comcast.net wrote:

> From: Robt R Pries <rpries@sbcglobal.net> 
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> To: bfilardi@comcast.net, MORRISJE1@aol.com, aitken@flowerfantasy.net, George & Margaret Sutton <margaret@suttoniris.com>
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> Subject: Re: Bulletin Advisory Committee
> Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:38:11 AM [View Source]   
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> It appeared to most people on the board that you had
> not tried very hard to get comparable bids last year
> just so that you could make a stronger case for the
> printer you wanted. The appearance was of a
> sandbagging effort that was a dishonest presentation
> to the board. It was an insult to the intelligence of
> the board. You have an opportunity to correct this
> appearance by being straightforward with a list of
> specifications that are presented to this committee
> that could then be required of each bidder. If a
> bidder does not meet these requirements than the whole
> committee can vouch for that fact. I would not wish to
> repeat what happened last fall. This was my first
> impression of your methods of operation and it is
> possible that I have misjudged you. Surely by
> fullfilling my request now, you would be on your way
> to correcting my first impression. I would be happy to
> apologise when I am convinced I see some effort to do
> this fairly.
>
> PS I have corrected the e-mail address for the
> Suttons.
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