Re: Motion to remove the operations manual from the Wiki

I only have the revised 10 edition and it isn't the easiest to understand, at least not to this lay person. Anyway, for as far back as I can remember, we have always allowed the members to voice their opinion on an existing motion regarding changes but we have also had the changes agreed to by the original motion maker and the second, or the originators have agreed to withdraw their motion. From what I see from Gary's email, it appears while the motion is pending it can be amended several times during the discussion process. It appears this could drag out motions for a very long time. If we accept the motion to amend as presented, that amended motion would have to go through the discussion and voting period (two weeks) and then the original motion, possibly as amended, would have to go through the same process. This seems like it would stop any motion from going forward in a reasonable time frame. Perhaps we should discuss this further at the spring board meeting and Jim could contact our legal adviser and she could present a definitive explanation of how this should work. Have we been doing our amendments to pending motions wrong all along?
During our Spring and Fall board meetings motions have been amended a lot before being voted on. 

Michelle

On 3/13/2013 9:26 AM, gary white wrote:

Please check Roberts Rules, pages 114-115 in Roberts Rules, newly revised 11th
edition.    Its true that BEFORE the motion has been announced, the original
motion holders can alter or amend the motion, but AFTER the motion has been
announced, the motion then belongs to the assembly and does not need the
approval of the original motion holders to be amended, but any member can
propose changes in a motion to amend.

Thanks,
Gary

--- On Wed, 3/13/13, Michelle Snyder <AISSecretary@irises.org> wrote:


From: Michelle Snyder <AISSecretary@irises.org>
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to remove the operations manual from the
Wiki
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 11:17 AM




The people who originally moved and seconded the motion need to agree to amend
their motion.  That is Susan Boyce and John Ludi.  If they agree I will send
the amended motion out.

Michelle

On 3/13/2013 8:17 AM, Ron Killingsworth wrote:

I think the discussion the last day or so has been very productive.  I do not
agree that the operations manual is of "critical importance" - this
organizations has operated for many years without it.  I do think it would be
nice to have a document that tells you what is expected of your job, having
been appointed to advertising editor and having nothing to help me determine
what the job really was/is or how to accomplish the job.  I have written a
proposed job description for advertising editor to go in the operations
manual.

The general consensus of opinions expressed seems to be that the document
should be on the AIS web site and made easy to find, but that keeping it on
the Wiki Iris is also a good idea.  This poses the problem of updating both
versions but that should not be a problem.

I therefore:

Move to amend the motion to read:

"That the Operations Manual be maintained on the Iris Wiki and that a copy of
the Operations Manual be placed on the AIS web site and that the web site be
indexed to allow easy access to the document."

Would someone second this amendment?

Ron Killingsworth
Director, AIS
Adv Editor


On 3/11/2013 23:43, Michelle Snyder wrote:

Susan Boyce moved and John Ludi seconded the below motion.  As such, it is
officially out for discussion.

"That the Operations Manual be removed from the Iris Wiki and be
posted on the AIS Website."

Michelle Snyder
AIS Secretary


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