Re: Motion to remove the operations manual from the Wiki

[gary white <in2iris@yahoo.com>]

Yes, the motion to amend the motion has to be voted on first, then the result
of that vote....either the amended motion or the original motion is voted on.
 
Gary

--- On Wed, 3/13/13, Ron Killingsworth <retmiagt@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Ron Killingsworth <retmiagt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to remove the operations manual from the
Wiki
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 11:55 AM


Yes, and before some else gets me, I must say that I did not properly
make my amendment.  A real motion to amend a motion would have been

I move to amend the motion by stiking out the words "removed from" and
adding in its place "maintained on" and by adding the word "also"
between and and be of the original motion so that the motion would not
read "That the Operations Manual be maintained on the Iris Wiki and also
be posted on the AIS website."

But, best to keep things as simple as possible.

Also, I believe the amendment has to be voted on by the board and once
that is approved, the motion then has to be voted on, but not positive
about that.

I think it is important to abide by at least the intent of Robert's Rules of
Order even if we do not follow every word of it.

Ron


On 3/13/2013 11:26, gary white wrote:
> Please check Roberts Rules, pages 114-115 in Roberts Rules, newly revised
11th
> edition.    Its true that BEFORE the motion has been announced, the
original
> motion holders can alter or amend the motion, but AFTER the motion has been
> announced, the motion then belongs to the assembly and does not need the
> approval of the original motion holders to be amended, but any member can
> propose changes in a motion to amend.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary
>
> --- On Wed, 3/13/13, Michelle Snyder <AISSecretary@irises.org> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michelle Snyder <AISSecretary@irises.org>
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to remove the operations manual from the
> Wiki
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 11:17 AM
>
>
>
>
> The people who originally moved and seconded the motion need to agree to
amend
> their motion.  That is Susan Boyce and John Ludi.  If they agree I will
send
> the amended motion out.
>
> Michelle
>
> On 3/13/2013 8:17 AM, Ron Killingsworth wrote:
>
> I think the discussion the last day or so has been very productive.  I do
not
> agree that the operations manual is of "critical importance" - this
> organizations has operated for many years without it.  I do think it would
be
> nice to have a document that tells you what is expected of your job, having
> been appointed to advertising editor and having nothing to help me
determine
> what the job really was/is or how to accomplish the job.  I have written a
> proposed job description for advertising editor to go in the operations
> manual.
>
> The general consensus of opinions expressed seems to be that the document
> should be on the AIS web site and made easy to find, but that keeping it on
> the Wiki Iris is also a good idea.  This poses the problem of updating both
> versions but that should not be a problem.
>
> I therefore:
>
> Move to amend the motion to read:
>
> "That the Operations Manual be maintained on the Iris Wiki and that a copy
of
> the Operations Manual be placed on the AIS web site and that the web site
be
> indexed to allow easy access to the document."
>
> Would someone second this amendment?
>
> Ron Killingsworth
> Director, AIS
> Adv Editor
>
>
> On 3/11/2013 23:43, Michelle Snyder wrote:
>
> Susan Boyce moved and John Ludi seconded the below motion.  As such, it is
> officially out for discussion.
>
> "That the Operations Manual be removed from the Iris Wiki and be
> posted on the AIS Website."
>
> Michelle Snyder
> AIS Secretary
>
>
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