RE: Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web

[RON AND SUSAN COSNER <keighley15@msn.com>]

I apologize for the misunderstanding about no difference. I mispoke. What I
meant was most of the people I talk with and granted it is a small group
access the wiki through the AIS website and view it as an extension of the
website not as a separate entity . Just llike most people we go there to find
out flower information. But I agree with Gordon if the AIS website had a
search engine it would be so much nicer along with someone to administer the
changes. I use the search capability of the wiki when looking for something.
If you go to search and type in operations manual you can get a list of
topics. For me this is the easier way.
Thank you and happy gardening
Ron Cosner


> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:10:01 -0400
> From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
>
> Gordon; I do not disagree that the Operations Manual should be on the
website. That is not the motion. I think it useful to have it on both for
different reasons.
>
> The Operations Manual was placed on the wiki so it could be accessible. The
problem with the wensite has been no one finds it easy to find things. For
years a site map was suggested but nothing happened. I do not think even a
site map would work for the website since there are many different subjects
often on the same page.
>
> Because of all the grumbling about not being able to find things I created
an index on the wiki. It indexes Iris information that is on the wiki itself
and information that is on the website. Traditional indexes are easy for most
of us to use.
>
> Often I noted when you clicked on a website topic that you would be leaving
the Encyclopedia. This is important because topics in the Encyclopedia proper
are often linked to auxillary topics and one can bounce around from subject to
subject. Once you leave the Encyclopedia you must use the back button to get
back to it, or you must start over from the website.
>
> For some reason the Number of topics on the website sidebar has been limited
but I would greatly favor a new one be added called Index. It would take you
directly to the Index in the Encyclopedia and you could do a search it you
wished but it would be easy to find anything on the website. Hitting the topic
in the index would take you directly back to the topic in the website. The
wiki is essentially a portion of the AIS website. In some ways it is easier to
get work done on the wiki portion because everything does not have to be put
up by a single person. The two areas can compliment each other in as I have
said things can be presented in different ways on each.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> I must agree. The website is the one place to address all the topics that
need
> to have membership focus and direction. When I looked for info on the areas
> of
> my responsibilities, I didn't even consider the Wiki!(i.e., I wasn't
> looking for
> 'flower data'). I would like to see the info Bob has in the wiki
> in the website,
> with a clear table of contents to guide our
> searches...hmmm...maybe even have an
> internal site search engine...
>
> Gordon,
> RVP17, Speakers Resource
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: cheryl
> deaton <region15kids@hotmail.com>
> To: "aisdiscuss@aisboard.org"
> <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> Sent: Tue, March 12, 2013 8:37:39 PM
> Subject: RE:
> [AISdiscuss] Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
>
> I disagree that the
> membership sees no difference between the wiki and the
> website. On the
> contrary. the wiki is viewed as a place to identify the
> flowers. Bob has
> added useful information about shows, etc., but it is
> conceived and viewed as
> a 'flower identifier' by members. The website is the
> spot to get information
> about the organization - Regions, affiliates,
> conventions, contests, business,
> minutes, etc. Therefore, since space is a
> premium for adding the hundreds of
> irises that are registered each year, I
> think the operations manual should be
> kept to the website where the business
> is contained. I have a beautiful stalk
> of Adriatic Waves in bloom right
> outside my front door. Hurry Spring!Cheryl
> >
> From: keighley15@msn.com
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: RE:
> [AISdiscuss] Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar
> 2013 10:04:33 -0600
> >
> > I agree with Ron these are just flowers and as
> caretakers of both them and
> AIS
> > business we should enjoy them. The internet
> is an impersonal medium and we
> > should try to remember not to read to much
> into the words. We do always
> have
> > personal email and phone as a way to also
> communicate. I agree that the
> > general membership sees no difference between
> the website and the wiki and
> > may even believe they are both the same. I
> would like to know more about
> both
> > as it seems there are differences. And if
> it would make things better maybe
> > somone should monitor and update the
> website if this is practical and not
> > costly.
> > Thank you and happy gardening
> > Ron Cosner
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:11:28 -0500
> > > From:
> retmiagt@gmail.com
> > > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > Subject: [AISdiscuss]
> Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
> > >
> > > First, let me say that I
> NEVER post to this web site because it is my
> > > experience that if you post
> anything that is not 100 per cent correct
> > > (according to someone's idea of
> correctness), or if you post an idea
> > > someone does not like, then you
> suffer the wrath of those who sit around
> > > and wait to jump on someone with
> a different idea. As a "bible thumping
> > > gun carrying conservative" I get
> yelled at and called names all the
> > > time. BUT, people, this is a flower
> organization. It is an
> > > organization about IRISES. Nothing that his
> organization does or does
> > > not do is going to have horrible consequences.
> THEY ARE JUST FLOWERS!
> > > So, I suggest that we try to be civil to each
> other. If you must attack
> > > a person personally, then use the person's
> private email - don't subject
> > > all of us to you rants and raves.
> > >
> > > I
> will vote no on the proposed motion. I see no reason to change things
> > > to
> satisfy one person.
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > >
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