Re: Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web

[Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>]

Gordon; I do not disagree that the Operations Manual should be on the website. That is not the motion. I think it useful to have it on both for different reasons. 

The Operations Manual was placed on the wiki so it could be accessible. The problem with the wensite has been no one finds it easy to find things. For years a site map was suggested but nothing happened. I do not think even a site map would work for the website since there are many different subjects often on the same page. 

Because of all the grumbling about not being able to find things I created an index on the wiki. It indexes Iris information that is on the wiki itself and information that is on the website. Traditional indexes are easy for most of us to use. 

Often I noted when you clicked on a website topic that you would be leaving the Encyclopedia. This is important because topics in the Encyclopedia proper are often linked to auxillary topics and one can bounce around from subject to subject. Once you leave the Encyclopedia you must use the back button to get back to it, or you must start over from the website.

 For some reason the Number of topics on the website sidebar has been limited but I would greatly favor a new one be added called Index. It would take you directly to the Index in the Encyclopedia and you could do a search it you wished but it would be easy to find anything on the website. Hitting the topic in the index would take you directly back to the topic in the website. The wiki is essentially a portion of the AIS website. In some ways it is easier to get work done on the wiki portion because everything does not have to be put up by a single person. The two areas can compliment each other in as I have said things can be presented in different ways on each.    

----- Original Message -----
I must agree. The website is the one place to address all the topics that need
to have membership focus and direction.  When I looked for info on the areas
of 
my responsibilities, I didn't even consider the Wiki!(i.e., I wasn't
looking for 
'flower data'). I would like to see the info Bob has in the wiki
in the website, 
with a clear table of contents to guide our
searches...hmmm...maybe even have an 
internal site search engine...
 
Gordon,
RVP17, Speakers Resource


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From: cheryl
deaton <region15kids@hotmail.com>
To: "aisdiscuss@aisboard.org"
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Sent: Tue, March 12, 2013 8:37:39 PM
Subject: RE:
[AISdiscuss] Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web

I disagree that the
membership sees no difference between the wiki and the
website.  On the
contrary. the wiki is viewed as a place to identify the
flowers.  Bob has
added useful information about shows, etc., but it is
conceived and viewed as
a 'flower identifier' by members.  The website is the
spot to get information
about the organization - Regions, affiliates,
conventions, contests, business,
minutes, etc.  Therefore, since space is a
premium for adding the hundreds of
irises that are registered each year, I
think the operations manual should be
kept to the website where the business
is contained. I have a beautiful stalk
of Adriatic Waves in bloom right
outside my front door.  Hurry Spring!Cheryl
>
From: keighley15@msn.com
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: RE:
[AISdiscuss] Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar
2013 10:04:33 -0600
>
> I agree with Ron these are just flowers and as
caretakers of both them and
AIS
> business we should enjoy them. The internet
is an impersonal medium and we
> should try to remember not to read to much
into the words. We do always
have
> personal email and phone as a way to also
communicate. I agree that the
> general membership  sees no difference between
the website and the wiki and
> may even believe they are both the same. I
would like to know more about
both
> as it seems there are differences. And if
it would make things better maybe
> somone should monitor and update the
website if this is practical and not
> costly.
> Thank you and happy gardening
> Ron Cosner
>
> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:11:28 -0500
> > From:
retmiagt@gmail.com
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: [AISdiscuss]
Motion to move ops manual from wiki to web
> >
> > First, let me say that I
NEVER post to this web site because it is my
> > experience that if you post
anything that is not 100 per cent correct
> > (according to someone's idea of
correctness), or if you post an idea
> > someone does not like, then you
suffer the wrath of those who sit around
> > and wait to jump on someone with
a different idea. As a "bible thumping
> > gun carrying conservative" I get
yelled at and called names all the
> > time. BUT, people, this is a flower
organization. It is an
> > organization about IRISES. Nothing that his
organization does or does
> > not do is going to have horrible consequences.
THEY ARE JUST FLOWERS!
> > So, I suggest that we try to be civil to each
other. If you must attack
> > a person personally, then use the person's
private email - don't subject
> > all of us to you rants and raves.
> >
> > I
will vote no on the proposed motion. I see no reason to change things
> > to
satisfy one person.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
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