Re: July AIS Bulletin for Emembers

[John Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>]

On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Gerry Snyder wrote:

> AIS membership: ability to be a judge, ability to vote the symposium,
> ability to be an officer in a section or affiliate, and access to the
> content of the Bulletin (in one form or another) seems like a lot of
> overlap to me.
> 

All of which was acknowledged in my description of the memberships as defined by the By-Laws, and I said  "other than those issues mention above" and the issues you mentioned were clearly "mentioned above" in the context of my message.

John


> On Jul 30, 2012 10:56 AM, "John Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com> wrote:
> 
>> The E-Membership was added to the AIS By-Laws by a vote of the AIS
>> membership in 2011 as a new class :
>> 
>> "Electronic membership shall be the same as other forms of memberships
>> with the exception that an e-member shall not receive the bulletin in a
>> printed form but shall have access to it electronically. This e-membership
>> may also include other electronic services which are unique to it. Members
>> may choose to have both e-membership and another form of membership to
>> receive both printed and electronic services. Holding two types of
>> membership shall not duplicate voting privileges. E-members shall also
>> receive the new member's packet and other information electronically.
>> Electronic-membership shall be renewable annually"
>> 
>> The online registration database, irisregister, has been, from its
>> inception, a service that was paid for separately from any AIS Membership
>> class. It was, in fact, not a class of AIS Membership, Specifically, AIS
>> Life Members were not given gratis subscriptions to irisregister.
>> Irisregister has never been funded from the AIS General Fund, rather it was
>> funded from the Electronic Services Restricted Fund (ESRF). The ESRF was
>> initially funded by revenue from the Geek Dinner auction which in tern
>> funded the initial development if irisregister. Since then the irisregister
>> fees have covered its own costs and provided additional funding for other
>> electronic services projects and enhancements.
>> 
>> To provide a basis of value for the AIS E-Membership irisregister was made
>> part of the E-Membership. The then current subscribers to irisregister were
>> made AIS E-Members. The subscription fee for irisregister had been $10.00
>> per year since it was made a paid-for service in September of 2003. In
>> light of that and that the Board wished to enhance e-services with the
>> addition of more electronic content, the Board set the annual fee for
>> E-Membership at $15.00. No discounts for multiple year subscriptions were
>> established.
>> 
>> E-Memberships were determined, per the By-Laws, to be AIS Memberships for
>> the purpose of qualifying for an individual judgeship, the concomitant
>> privilege of voting the AIS Awards Ballot and other requirements for
>> membership (e.g., serving in any AIS position requiring previous AIS
>> Membership).
>> 
>> Other than the issues mentioned above, there is no overlap between
>> E-Memberships and the traditional (print) memberships.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:27 AM, CEMahan@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> As an honorary life member of AIS I would like to protest the Board's
>> action!
>>> What logic could deny regular AIS members a service provided for email
>>> members; Surely the by-laws do not permit such discrimination. Clarence
>> Mahan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
>>> To: aisdiscuss <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 8:31 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Fran,
>>> 
>>> Yes, that is the policy set by the board. (I just want you to know that
>> it is
>>> not me that sets the policy).
>>> 
>>> The electronic membership was set up to allow those individuals that did
>> not
>>> care to receive the hard copy bulletin to have access to the e-bulletin
>> as a
>>> benefit in addition to having access to the irisregister database. It
>> does
>>> cost
>>> money to maintain the e-member services. and while the rest of the
>> website is
>>> available to anyone, it was decided that AIS needed to charge for the
>>> additional
>>> e-member services.
>>> 
>>> You can, of course, have both types of memberships.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Fran & Henry Day wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So if we are a regular AIS member (not an emember),B  we are not able to
>>>> access the scanned AIS bulletins?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fran Day
>>>> 
>>>> RVP, Region 23
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: "John Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
>>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>>> Cc: iris@hort.net, "iris-photos" <iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>, "sibrob
>>>> sibrob" <sibrob@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:46:20 AM
>>>> Subject: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
>>>> 
>>>> The July 2012 AIS Bulletin in electronic format is now available for AIS
>>>> Emembers to view in the Emembers section of the AIS Website.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> _____________________________
>>>> John Jones
>>>> Director, American Iris Society
>>>> Chair, Electronic Services Committee
>>>> Co-Registrar/Recorder
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> __________________
>>> John and Joanne Jones
>>> Registrar-Recorder
>>> American Iris Society
>>> 35572 Linda Drive
>>> Fremont, CA 94536
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>>> 
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>> 
>> __________________
>> John and Joanne Jones
>> Registrar-Recorder
>> American Iris Society
>> 35572 Linda Drive
>> Fremont, CA 94536
>> aisregistrar@irises.org
>> 
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