Re: July AIS Bulletin for Emembers

[Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>]

Gerry; All the things you mention cost AIS very little. They are essentially part of either membership. I believe you have been at every meeting for the last 5 years. You should be aware that many of those years AIS ran in the red. I think it would be a marvelous idea to offer a discount for combinedE/print membership, but where would you make up the extra money to pay the bills? If scores of old members would suddenly join with an e-membership, maybe that would work, but only about 400 had memberships in the Iris register when it was $10 and they were grandfathered in for the life of their subscription. My hope is that we could make e-membership better and better so that it became irresistible. But it is far from there yet, and the budget still needs balancing. Its a nice idea but we still must pay the bills. If I could be convinced that a third more existing print members would join with a discounted $10 e-membership than I would be all for it.  

----- Original Message -----
AIS membership: ability to be a judge, ability to vote the symposium,
ability to be an officer in a section or affiliate, and access to the
content of the Bulletin (in one form or another) seems like a lot of
overlap to me.

Gerry
On Jul 30, 2012 10:56 AM, "John Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com> wrote:

> The E-Membership was added to the AIS By-Laws by a vote of the AIS
> membership in 2011 as a new class :
>
> "Electronic membership shall be the same as other forms of memberships
> with the exception that an e-member shall not receive the bulletin in a
> printed form but shall have access to it electronically. This e-membership
> may also include other electronic services which are unique to it. Members
> may choose to have both e-membership and another form of membership to
> receive both printed and electronic services. Holding two types of
> membership shall not duplicate voting privileges. E-members shall also
> receive the new member's packet and other information electronically.
> Electronic-membership shall be renewable annually"
>
> The online registration database, irisregister, has been, from its
> inception, a service that was paid for separately from any AIS Membership
> class. It was, in fact, not a class of AIS Membership, Specifically, AIS
> Life Members were not given gratis subscriptions to irisregister.
> Irisregister has never been funded from the AIS General Fund, rather it was
> funded from the Electronic Services Restricted Fund (ESRF). The ESRF was
> initially funded by revenue from the Geek Dinner auction which in tern
> funded the initial development if irisregister. Since then the irisregister
> fees have covered its own costs and provided additional funding for other
> electronic services projects and enhancements.
>
> To provide a basis of value for the AIS E-Membership irisregister was made
> part of the E-Membership. The then current subscribers to irisregister were
> made AIS E-Members. The subscription fee for irisregister had been $10.00
> per year since it was made a paid-for service in September of 2003. In
> light of that and that the Board wished to enhance e-services with the
> addition of more electronic content, the Board set the annual fee for
> E-Membership at $15.00. No discounts for multiple year subscriptions were
> established.
>
> E-Memberships were determined, per the By-Laws, to be AIS Memberships for
> the purpose of qualifying for an individual judgeship, the concomitant
> privilege of voting the AIS Awards Ballot and other requirements for
> membership (e.g., serving in any AIS position requiring previous AIS
> Membership).
>
> Other than the issues mentioned above, there is no overlap between
> E-Memberships and the traditional (print) memberships.
>
> John
>
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:27 AM, CEMahan@aol.com wrote:
>
> > As an honorary life member of AIS I would like to protest the Board's
> action!
> > What logic could deny regular AIS members a service provided for email
> > members; Surely the by-laws do not permit such discrimination. Clarence
> Mahan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> > To: aisdiscuss <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> > Sent: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 8:31 pm
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
> >
> >
> > Hi Fran,
> >
> > Yes, that is the policy set by the board. (I just want you to know that
> it is
> > not me that sets the policy).
> >
> > The electronic membership was set up to allow those individuals that did
> not
> > care to receive the hard copy bulletin to have access to the e-bulletin
> as a
> > benefit in addition to having access to the irisregister database. It
> does
> > cost
> > money to maintain the e-member services. and while the rest of the
> website is
> > available to anyone, it was decided that AIS needed to charge for the
> > additional
> > e-member services.
> >
> > You can, of course, have both types of memberships.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Fran & Henry Day wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So if we are a regular AIS member (not an emember),B  we are not able to
> >> access the scanned AIS bulletins?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Fran Day
> >>
> >> RVP, Region 23
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "John Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> >> Cc: iris@hort.net, "iris-photos" <iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>, "sibrob
> >> sibrob" <sibrob@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:46:20 AM
> >> Subject: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
> >>
> >> The July 2012 AIS Bulletin in electronic format is now available for AIS
> >> Emembers to view in the Emembers section of the AIS Website.
> >>
> >> John
> >> _____________________________
> >> John Jones
> >> Director, American Iris Society
> >> Chair, Electronic Services Committee
> >> Co-Registrar/Recorder
> >>
> >>
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