Re: Re: Registration Images; Putative motion

[Dana Brown <ddbro@sbcglobal.net>]

I don't think anyone is advocating for doing nothing.  I do think several are
advocating for NOT jumping in to the middle of it.  Form the committee and
make 
sure that there is representation from all sides of the issue, not just
one 
person pushing an agenda through.  Address the issues and make this
transition a 
pleasant, productive one.  


No-one wants to  "do nothing at
all", instead we are making a decision to do 
something correctly, vast
difference. 


Dana Brown
ddbro@sbcglobal.net
Malevil Iris Gardens & Kennels
www.malevil-iris.com

 I own a dog and I vote!!
________________________________
From: Robert Pries
<robertpries@embarqmail.com>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Wed, March 16,
2011 1:45:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative
motion

I agree that this should all be thought through. But the history with
AIS board 
is that Thinking through means delaying forever. I have not
proposed 
requirements. I have proposed a committee to work through the
problems. The 
point is that what I have propsed is a method of getting us
started instead of 
waiting another year or more sitting on our hands and
letting the world pass by. 
The AIS has been dying a slow death for the last
almost twenty years becaues we 
are so "nimble" in what we do. The Spuria
Society has createdf their own 
database; the Louisiana Society requested we
reqiure pictures with their 
registrations three years ago and heard nothing,
so they created their own. What 
does it take to make this organization
Function? Yes, everything has errors. As 
we put up information on the wiki we
have found errors in the written Iris 
register. The remarkable thing about a
digital database is that it can easily be 
corrected and is. There will always
be errors and I suppose i!
f you do nothing you can not be acused of an error
but is not that the worst 
error of all?

----- Original Message -----
From:
"Dana Brown" <ddbro@sbcglobal.net>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent:
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:30:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re:
Registration Images; Putative motion

I can tell you that there are errors in
the ASI checklist.  Nothing personal
against anyone who has furnished the
information or compiled it, as it has
been 
a huge labor of love, but I have
been told by a couple of hybridizers
that the 
pictures listed with their
registration information are not of their
cultivar.  
I have heard similar
comments about the wiki.  This is a huge
concern to me as I 
feel that
anything that has the AIS seal of approval on it
ought to be correct.

How do
you find someone to "proof" all these photos,
especially those that do 
not
come from the hybridizer?  As we go back and try
to fill in the blanks it is
all too easy to make a mistake.  Who is the final
arbiter of whether or not
the 
picture is correct?  In my opinion, someone(s)
should be approving those
pictures before they are published.  However, I do
not know of any one person
who has seen every iris cultivar and can vouch
that a given picture is
correct.  What do we do about hybridizers who are not
photographers?  Some
people can't take a decent picture no matter what and I
for one would rather
have no picture of my registration than a bad one.  


I
honestly feel that we
need to think this through before we start making
rules.  As a for instance,
New York recently passed a law.  The law was
intended 
to make it illegal to
tether, chain, or tie out your dog on a slip
collar.  A 
very good idea, one
long overdue.  However, in their rush to pass
the law, they 
actually worded
the law so that it is now illegal to have a
slip collar on your 
dog at all,
and slip collars are used by most trainers,
the police department, 
search and
rescue animals, and in fact the picture of
the dog they used as part 
of their
ad, had one on.  The point is, the best of
intentions can go awry and 
maybe
we need to appoint a committee to look into
this project and come up with
some intelligent guide lines.  A committee
formed of people with more than one
perspective on this subject.  They can
present their recommendations to the
Board and then we can institute the
policies.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Dana
Dana Brown
ddbro@sbcglobal.net
Malevil Iris Gardens & Kennels
www.malevil-iris.com

I own a dog and I vote!!
________________________________
From: cheryl deaton
<region15kids@hotmail.com>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Wed, March 16,
2011 10:22:51 AM
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative
motion

... At this time, do other Iris societies have photo
requirements or
other ways to ensure accuracy of iris
registrations/descriptions? What do they
do? We really need to do some
research into this.
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