Re: Re: Registration Images; Putative motion

[Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>]

I agree that this should all be thought through. But the history with AIS board is that Thinking through means delaying forever. I have not proposed requirements. I have proposed a committee to work through the problems. The point is that what I have propsed is a method of getting us started instead of waiting another year or more sitting on our hands and letting the world pass by. The AIS has been dying a slow death for the last almost twenty years becaues we are so "nimble" in what we do. The Spuria Society has createdf their own database; the Louisiana Society requested we reqiure pictures with their registrations three years ago and heard nothing, so they created their own. What does it take to make this organization Function? Yes, everything has errors. As we put up information on the wiki we have found errors in the written Iris register. The remarkable thing about a digital database is that it can easily be corrected and is. There will always be errors and I suppose if you do nothing you can not be acused of an error but is not that the worst error of all?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Brown" <ddbro@sbcglobal.net>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:30:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative motion

I can tell you that there are errors in the ASI checklist.  Nothing personal
against anyone who has furnished the information or compiled it, as it has
been 
a huge labor of love, but I have been told by a couple of hybridizers
that the 
pictures listed with their registration information are not of their
cultivar.  
I have heard similar comments about the wiki.  This is a huge
concern to me as I 
feel that anything that has the AIS seal of approval on it
ought to be correct.

How do you find someone to "proof" all these photos,
especially those that do 
not come from the hybridizer?  As we go back and try
to fill in the blanks it is 
all too easy to make a mistake.  Who is the final
arbiter of whether or not the 
picture is correct?  In my opinion, someone(s)
should be approving those 
pictures before they are published.  However, I do
not know of any one person 
who has seen every iris cultivar and can vouch
that a given picture is 
correct.  What do we do about hybridizers who are not
photographers?  Some 
people can't take a decent picture no matter what and I
for one would rather 
have no picture of my registration than a bad one.  


I
honestly feel that we need to think this through before we start making
rules.  As a for instance, New York recently passed a law.  The law was
intended 
to make it illegal to tether, chain, or tie out your dog on a slip
collar.  A 
very good idea, one long overdue.  However, in their rush to pass
the law, they 
actually worded the law so that it is now illegal to have a
slip collar on your 
dog at all, and slip collars are used by most trainers,
the police department, 
search and rescue animals, and in fact the picture of
the dog they used as part 
of their ad, had one on.  The point is, the best of
intentions can go awry and 
maybe we need to appoint a committee to look into
this project and come up with 
some intelligent guide lines.  A committee
formed of people with more than one 
perspective on this subject.  They can
present their recommendations to the 
Board and then we can institute the
policies.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Dana



 
Dana Brown
ddbro@sbcglobal.net
Malevil Iris Gardens & Kennels
www.malevil-iris.com

 I own a dog and I vote!!
________________________________
From: cheryl deaton
<region15kids@hotmail.com>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Wed, March 16,
2011 10:22:51 AM
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative
motion

... At this time, do other Iris societies have photo
requirements or
other ways to ensure accuracy of iris
registrations/descriptions? What do they
do? We really need to do some
research into this.

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