RE: Re: Registration Images; Putative motion

[Susan Boyce <irisgal@hotmail.com>]

Hi all,
   I also agree that there needs to be some more research done before we make
a motion to require the hybridizers submit photos of their new iris
introductions.  I also agree with Cheryl of a date of Jan 2015 would be a
realistic time frame.
   If we go ahead and ram this motion through, and require this before next
year I fear it would impact most of the hybridizers negatively.  This year's
hybridizing season is just a couple of weeks away, and the hybridizers will be
extremely busy.  If we require this right away, most of them will not even be
aware of what they need to do this spring to be able to register their irises
for the next year.
   A committee definately needs to be set up to study, discuss, and set
guidelines for requiring the photos.  I feel we need to have a couple of
hybridizers on this committee as the results of this committee will impact the
hybridizers the most.
   Another point to consider is who is going to download, scan, and archive
these photos.  The registrar already has his/her hands full with just the
registration process itself.  Also, as someone has stated, it is not the
registrars job to confirm that every photo matches the written description of
each and every iris registration submitted.  And yet another point to consider
is the requirements of the photographs submitted.  Are the hybridizers going
to have to purchase new camera equipment to meet the photo requirement
specifications.
   Just some more thoughts to consider.
Susan Boyce

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> From: region15kids@hotmail.com
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative motion
> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:22:51 -0700
>
> Bob,
> I like what you've started, but I really think it is too wordy and needs a
bit
> of tweaking; maybe more than one motion? I also think that if we begin
> "requesting" that we should implement a time frame for "requiring", such as
> Jan. 1, 2015. That would give us plenty of time to get our act together (I
> hope!). As to SUGGESTED guidelines, our photo contest has requirements, so
why
> shouldn't our registration? At this time, do other Iris societies have
photo
> requirements or other ways to ensure accuracy of iris
> registrations/descriptions? What do they do? We really need to do some
> research into this.
>
> I think the hybridizer/photographer would need to sign a waiver releasing
the
> photo for use by AIS in the proscribed manner while retaining their
> copyrights. Just my thoughts.
> Cheryl
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:39:33 -0400
> > From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative motion
> >
> > Here is a motion I would suggest that conveys my thoughts, I think it is
> consistent with what most everyone has been saying;
> >
> > That the AIS registrar begin asking for images with new registrations;
These
> will be accepted with understanding that the AIS will archive them in the
AIS
> Library and display them on the Iris Encyclopedia and they will be
available
> for other AIS uses, but that the photographer retains all other rights for
> their use, such as in the hybridizers catalog, and for any purpose for
which
> the hybridizer/photographer gives permission. This should be viewed as only
a
> first step towards the possibility of requiring images with registration,
and
> that requirement should be considered in conjunction with the other
national
> Iris Societies. That also the President of AIS be empowered to create a
> registration committee that can facilitate the implementation of the
> collection, archiving and disposition of the images. That this committee
> should also create SUGGESTED guidelines for required images by July 4th
2011
> and that these be reviewed as needed such that the guidelines evolve based
on
> the!
> > compliance and practicality.
> >
> > I prefer the idea of doing something immediately that is not mandatory
and
> discovering the pitfalls, than not doing anything in the hopes of getting a
> perfected full-blown policy. That can come later.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: RUTHBB@aol.com
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:13:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; AHS Daylily Cultivar
> Search
> >
> > Excellent! Click on the thumbnail and you get a nice size picture!
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/15/2011 10:08:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > irismom@nc.rr.com writes:
> >
> > Sorry. I've discovered that 'Primal Scream' was registered before AHS
began
> > using pictures. Try 'Carolina Spirit' or 'Big Chill'.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
[mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
> > On Behalf Of RUTHBB@aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:59 PM
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; AHS Daylily Cultivar
> > Search
> >
> > Susan, I didn't get a picture with Primal Scream. But I see pics when I
> > click on 'show all daylilies'
> > Ruth
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/15/2011 9:00:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > irismom@nc.rr.com writes:
> >
> > To let you see what another plant society has done for years with
> > pictures
> > and their registration of cultivars, go to the Daylily Registration
> > database
> > listed below. If you need a name of a daylily to get into the database
try
> > using 'Primal Scream'.
> > Susan Grigg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/
> >
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