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Okay, so 60 people out of 4000 need to purchase the binders for us to recover our cost - but aren't we catering to the few and not the majority? Many members already feel left out of AIS and think that the board is elitist....this smacks of that very quality. I would rather see us spend money on something that the 4000 would appreciate and use. Cheryl Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:53:52 -0400 From: robertpries@embarqmail.com To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine Binders
Cheryl wrote: We need to look into more than one option for storing the bulletin; There are already many options availble to people at Office Supply stores. As was mentioned earlier there are slip cases and three ring binders. These a can all be individually personalized by the person buying them. They do not make sense to sell through AIS because they would cost a great deal more for AIS to mail than what could be purchased locally. I have used all of these methids in the past. But the reason I suggested the binders is they look very classy on my bookshelf whereas to my mind the others look sort of makeshift. Since members can already do the other possibilities on their own it seemed reasonable to offer something first class for those of us who care enough about the AIS to want to save its history. I realize that is probably a very small minority. For that group they would probably want at least two as has been indicated to me by several people. That means it would only take 60 people out of our 4,000 members who have that level of interest to break even. I already have orders for 20 binders. I would not expect most affiliates to have even one person who is that interested in AIS to want to save and store the bulletin in this way. But even if there was only one person in one fourth of our affiliates than there would be enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheryl deaton" <region15kids@hotmail.com> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 12:13:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine Binders I was not trying to burst anyone's bubble regarding the binders, but in this time of fiscal responsibility I do question spending money on something that I feel only a few would appreciate and purchase. It isn't as if we cannot go forward at a later date and reconsider this purchase when we might have better information about it. Since we just started with the new format, many members may not even think about storage until they have a year's worth or more of the Bulletin. As a member of the Median Iris Society I have received The Medianite for years and even though it is already has holes punched for ease of placing in a binder, I usually keep very few issues and give the others away to encourage growing medians. Just because another plant society does something doesn't mean we need to do the same. Why don't we take some time and look into more than one option for storing our Bulletins? Cheryl
It is very easy to take a bulletin to an office store and get them drilled with holes and purchase a three ring binder and to then make your own cover I do this with other AIS section publications and see no reason why we should offer something that is easily done. On the other hand you can not go to a office store and get a printed magazine binder if you wanted to. That has to be contracted for. The point is not to reduce options but to create more options. No one is insisting that those that do not want to spend the money do so. But the logic of not offering something because some, even most people would not want it seems sad. It only would take the sale of 114 binders at the $12 price to break even. There are many members that would probably order two. So if the majority who do not want it, would wish to keep the minority (which could be as low as 60 people with no cost to AIS) from having it, than I think that would be sad. Just because one person does not like yellow irises that does not mean the rest of us should stop growing them. This is why I suggested a pre-printing off to see if we could get the 114 sales need to make this a no cost to AIS venture. It does not take away other people options to treat the magazine however they wish. Those that just throw it away should not care what the rest of us do with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Brewitt" <just1moreiris@gmail.com> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:16:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine Binders For the record, they were the wire-type binders.
However, having read Cheryl Deaton's note, I will mention that one of our members was rather incensed to think that after the AIS changed the format of its Bulletin it would ask its members spend more money to buy binders to store them. He suggested the Bulletin come with 3-holes for storing in a binder like The Medianite. This way members who choose to save their bulletins can recycle old binders or buy cheap ones from the dollar-store. And I thought he made a good point when he asked, how many actually save their bulletins in this throw away world? I wonder how many others feel like this member and how many feel like Cheryl's members i.e. they won't buy?
What if RVPs or Affiliate Presidents were asked to poll their members to see if there is a market? Kate On 21 March 2010 18:24, Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com> wrote:
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