Re: AIS PayPal Webpage

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Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS PayPal Webpage
From: Paul W Gossett <pwgossett@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 14:50:13 -0500
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John,

I am currently discussing it with the SLI Board and will let you know of
our decision.

Thanks,

Paul

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 13:52:17 -0700 John I Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
writes:
> Of all the Sections and Cooperating Societies, only the SJI has a 
> PayPal page. The ASI has a PayPal method but you do it via email.
> 
> I believe SSI is planning on having a PayPal page on their site.
> 
> Most that I have heard back from (SPCNI, SIGNA, Dwarf, SSI, ASI [not 
> 
> confirmed yet], Spuria, SJI [maybe]) want to be on our page.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Jun 7, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Jill Bonino wrote:
> 
> > I agree with John's proposal.  If we are providing a new service, 
> such 
> > as PayPal, to other sections and societies, we should pass along 
> the 
> > cost. They would have to pay this fee anyway if they had the 
> > service...Which brings up the quesitons, do we know how many of 
> the 
> > Sections and Societies already use PayPal or another payment 
> service 
> > to obtain members through their own websites?
> >
> > If there are none, this is something we can promote to the 
> Sections 
> > and Societies to help them gain members too...Their websites could 
> be 
> > linked for payment purposes to our website?  Is this possible?
> >
> > If some of them already use PayPal, they might consider dropping 
> their 
> > own individual service to use ours?
> >
> > Would this significantly increase Tom's work as MemSec?
> >
> > Jill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John I Jones" 
> > <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> > To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:48 AM
> > Subject: [AISdiscuss] AIS PayPal Webpage
> >
> >
> >> When we process a PayPal (PP) payment we are charged 2.9% of the 
> >> transaction value plus $.30 per transaction. Foreign currency 
> >> transactions cost an additional 2.5% A multiple subscription 
> >> transaction gets only a single transaction fee. ($.30).
> >>
> >> The question is how much do we remit to the other societies.
> >>
> >> We need to establish a standard as to how we charge the Sections 
> and 
> >> Cooperating Societies.
> >>
> >> I propose that we charge each non-AIS subscription the 2.9% and 
> the 
> >> $.30 transaction fee. That is the same amount that a Section and 
> >> Cooperating Societie would be charged if they had their own 
> PayPal 
> >> service. This approach would allow Tom to use a simple lookup 
> table 
> >> to see how much to remit to the other group. It would mean that 
> we 
> >> would "earn" an additional $.30 for each subscription that came 
> as 
> >> part of a multiple subscription transaction.
> >>
> >> The same rate would apply to any non-AIS subscription that came 
> in as 
> >> a single transaction.
> >>
> >> The alternative would require Tom to calculate a separate charge 
> for 
> >> each subscription that came in as part of a multiple subscription 
> 
> >> transaction and distribute the Transaction Fee across all the 
> >> subscriptions in a single transaction.
> >>
> >> In a separate discussion Tom Gormley has pointed out:
> >>
> >>> The existing arrangement we have with accepting credit card 
> charges 
> >>> for Offshore non-AIS Members and domestic AIS/Section members is 
> 
> >>> that we currently do not pass on the fees involved with these 
> >>> charges. This is based on AIS Policy (see below) which is silent 
> on 
> >>> the subject.
> >>>
> >>> It costs us $1.02 to process a $25.00 charge for AIS Members but 
> 
> >>> since most Section charges are about 30% of that I think we 
> should 
> >>> continue to provide this service gratis as a warm fuzzy to the 
> >>> Sections and Co-ops. As Electronic payments (and membership) 
> develop 
> >>> and grow we can then revisit this issue. If we choose to charge 
> them 
> >>> from the get-go how do we handle our existing methodology on 
> Section 
> >>> payments?
> >>>
> >>
> >> As far as I can tell through a search of the AIS minutes from 
> 1988 
> >> thru 2003 the only mention of the Membership Secretary accepting 
> >> credit card transactions is in Oct '97 when M. Harlow reported 
> that 
> >> she had sent out new ITJs that indicated the AIS would accept 
> credit 
> >> card transactions. There is no mention (that I could find) of 
> whether 
> >> AIS should or should not absorb the fee for a credit card 
> >> transaction. There may have been a policy decision, but I cannot 
> find 
> >> mention of it.
> >>
> >> I propose (although I can't make this as a motion) that we no 
> longer 
> >> absorb the credit card charges for subscriptions to Sections and 
> >> Cooperating Societies submitted to the membership office and that 
> 
> >> PayPal charges be deducted from the amounts remitted to the 
> Sections 
> >> and Cooperating Societies for subscriptions submitted thru the 
> AIS 
> >> PayPal page. If Sections and Cooperating Societies so choose they 
> can 
> >> specify an additional charge for credit card  or PayPal payments.
> >>
> >>> THE AMERICAN IRIS SOCIETY
> >>> CURRENT AIS MEMBERSHIP OFFICE POLICY CONCERNING
> >>> ACCEPTING DUES FOR SECTIONS AND COOPERATING SOCIETIES
> >>>
> >>> MARCH, 2002
> >>>
> >>> PLEASE FILE FOR REFERENCE AND PLEASE ENSURE THAT ONLY CORRECT 
> >>> INFORMATION IS PUBLISHED TO YOUR MEMBERS
> >>>
> >>> The AlS Membership Office will accept dues for Sections and 
> >>> Cooperating Societies when tendered by AIS members 
> simultaneously 
> >>> with their AIS dues and paid either by check, money order, or 
> Visa 
> >>> or MasterCard.
> >>>
> >>> All dues collected on behalf of Sections or Cooperating 
> Societies 
> >>> are forwarded by the AlS Membership Office to the appropriate 
> >>> recipients during the first week of the month subsequent to the 
> >>> month in which they were received by the Membership Office.
> >>>
> >>> As a special gesture of support to the Sections and Cooperating 
> >>> Societies, the AlS Membership Office will accept dues from 
> members 
> >>> of these groups living outside the USA who are not also 
> tendering 
> >>> AlS dues simultaneously, including those who are not AlS 
> members, 
> >>> when those
> >>> persons pay with either Visa or MasterCard.
> >>>
> >>> Members of Sections or Cooperating Societies who live within the 
> USA 
> >>> and who are not paying AIS dues simultaneously should always 
> send 
> >>> their check for renewal directly to the membership chairman of 
> the 
> >>> appropriate Section or Cooperating Society.
> >>>
> >>> The AIS Membership Office does not accept charge payments for 
> >>> special contributions to the Sections or Cooperating Societies.
> >>
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