Re: [AISvote] Re: MemSec-Overseas Life Memberships-Question

[Terry Aitken <Terry@flowerfantasy.net>]

Hi All
 I hope I hit the right button?
For purposes of discussion, I will second Jay's motion to discontinue 
life memberships.
If this discussion is about 32 O/S out of 358 domestic, I fail to see 
the economic impact on the society.
Ever since I graduated from college (1968) and immediately went to work 
at a 56 hour a week job(construction costs were going up 1 or 2 % per 
month and Architects were paid incentives to get jobs off the drawing 
board fast), interest rates were well above double digit , probably 
around 18%. Investing in Life memberships was a good idea for AIS. 
Interest hit 28% at the height of the Reagan years and they only dropped 
thru the floor after 9/11. So, we are caught in a short term glitch with 
the unknown still ahead of us. It is a temporary problem but one that 
AIS can do without with no particular financial repurcussions. Life (for 
AIS) can be simpler!
The board seems to be attaching life memberships to honorary awards 
which should be no problem as most have been near unanimous votes.A 
"super majority " should have almost no impact on the outcome.
Terry
Yup, raining AGAIN!

irishud@earthlink.net wrote:

>Tom,
>
>I agree with Jeanne on all points. Following a yes vote by the board 
>to discontinue life memberships it should be removed from the 
>Bulletin.
>
>I would like to make a motion to the board to immediately discontinue 
>offering Life Memberships except where the board by a super majority 
>(2/3 vote) approves the issuance of special life memberships. This 
>action will not affect current life members in any way.
>
>Jay
>
>
>At 11:54 AM -0400 6/6/05, PlankMail@aol.com wrote:
>  
>
>>Dear Tom:
>>     It would appear there has been a pricing oversight with O/S 
>>Life Memberships.  There is, however, little that can be done about 
>>existing O/S Lifers.
>>     Although it is important that the Life membership O/S rate be 
>>changed. should it continue to be offered,  my personal feeling is 
>>that AIS should discontinue offering Life Membership of any kind as 
>>an option, except, perhaps as an Honorary thing (such as to AIS 
>>PResidents, although it wouldn't effect me since Bob and I have a 
>>dual Life membership already.)
>>     In reality, I believe we (AIS) can not afford Life Memberships 
>>and few groups offer that plan as an option anymore. (One surely can 
>>not subscribe to a magazine that way.)
>>     I want to go on record  that I am not in favor of "selling" 
>>multiple triennials either.  It absolutely hurts our financial flow 
>>which is in serious need of closing, not opening, the flood gates.
>>     In truth, I would rather entertain a discussion about ceasing 
>>to offer Life Memberships.  We would have to maintain the ones we 
>>have, of course, but we would no longer make that a membership 
>>option.
>>     As far as I can see (and I discussed this with Bob) it will be 
>>VERY difficult to request additional postage payment from our O/S 
>>Lifers for our lack of insight to the future of postage rates and 
>>production costs. To do that to them would mean it should be done to 
>>ALL Life members, many of whom became Lifers at a ridiculous sum 
>>compared to today's cost of production and interest rates for money 
>>in restricted funds
>>     That's my opinion -- how do you see it?
>>          Jeanne
>>    
>>In a message dated 6/6/05 8:07:45 AM, GormleyGreenery writes:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The current dues schedule we have is below.  There appears to be no 
>>>"surcharge for mailing" to overseas members as there is with Annual 
>>>and Triennial O/S memberships.  There is nothing to that effect in 
>>>the MemSec files nor computer base "Type" designation.  We current 
>>>have 358 Single Life Memberships with 32 of those overseas and 115 
>>>Dual Life Memberships with 2 of them overseas.  Should we be 
>>>surcharging the O/S Life memberships for mailing?
>>>Dues go up 4-1-05 to
>>>
>>>Single Annual $25.00
>>>
>>>Dual Annual   $30.00
>>>
>>>Single Triennial  $60.00
>>>
>>>Dual Triennial    $75.00
>>>
>>>Life Memberships are available. 
>>>
>>>Life Single:    $450.00
>>>
>>>Life Dual:       $545.00
>>>
>>>Senior Life (age 65+): 15% discount. (For Dual Senior Life, both 
>>>members must be 65 or older.)  15% Senior Discount applies only to 
>>>Life Membership.
>>>
>>>Youth Rates (under Age 19)
>>>
>>>Youth without Bulletin   $5.00
>>>
>>>Youth with Bulletin                    $9.00
>>>
>>>Overseas:
>>>
>>>Single Annual $30.00
>>>
>>>Dual Annual   $35.00
>>>
>>>Single Triennial  $65.00
>>>
>>>Dual Triennial    $80.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom Gormley
>>>Gormley Greenery
>>>Cedar Hill, MO

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