RE: New Motion

["George and Janet Smith" <4f80107e1@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

VERY helpful idea!

Janet Smith

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From: 93ec31ec1@rewrite.aisboard.org
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:52:18 -0500

>I agree with Bob.  The copyright belongs to the AIS, and any  AIS
>copyrighted material can be used within the AIS.  
>
>However, given what happened with All Things Plants, I am concerned
>that for-profit sites will try to purloin the info.  Whatever we do,
>let's post the copyright notice prominently and let them know what
>they need to do to get permission to reprint (or re-post) the
>information.    
>
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>From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>[mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Snyder
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:34 PM
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>
>To Bob and all,
>
>I do not see any need to table the motion.
>
>The one-week discussion period currently underway seems ample for any
>other members of the IP committee to raise objections or bring up
>issues to talk about. The deafening silence makes it clear to me that
>there are not any.
>
>Going ahead with the vote on the normal schedule makes sense.
>
>Gerry Snyder
>IP Committee member
>
>On 9/10/2014 12:29 PM, Robert Pries wrote:
>> The issue of placing chapters from the World Of Iris in my mind is
>more a strategic plan issue than a copyright issue and as such I
>think it appropriate to bring it to the full board. AIS owns the
>copyright and it is AIS using the material.
>>
>>   To me the underlying question is does AIS want to be the leading
>source of Iris information on the internet?
>>
>> I have explained that the principle competitors for that title are
>Davebs Garden and All Things Plants (ATP). Presently the wiki leads
>both of them in numbers of people coming for Iris information. But
>ATP I am sure would like to challenge our prominent position and
>their theft of the Iris Register reinforces that view. Despite that
>loss, the wiki continues to grow by 36% over last year and if we can
>flesh out some of our topic areas with the material requested I
>believe its growth will continue to accelerate.
>>
>> That said it is not my intent to circumvent any committee. I am
>requesting that my motion be tabled for a couple of weeks so that the
>IP committee can provide their consult to the board. I suppose I
>address that request to Bob Hollingworth, who I understand is the
>current chair.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Jones" <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:39:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>>
>> The latest version of the AIS IP Policy document developed by the
>Ad Hoc committee consisting of:
>> Veronica Johnson
>> John Jones
>> Andi Rivarola
>> Janet Smith
>> Gerry Snyder
>>
>> and, I believe, was the version presented to, and approved by, the
>AIS Board, says in Para II. B:
>>
>> "To review all requests for use of AIS intellectual property,
>referring any especially sensitive issues to the AIS Board of
>Directors board; reporting all recommendations to the AIS Board of
>Directors;"
>>
>> I believe my previous statement, while not an exact quotation,
>accurately reflected the intent of the recommendation.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John
>> __________________
>> John and Joanne Jones
>> Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society aisregistrar@irises.org
>>
>> John Jones, Chairman, Electronic Services Committee 
>> aiselectronicsvcs@irises.org
>>
>> 35572 Linda Drive
>> Fremont, CA 94536
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Robert Pries
><101p@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I am on the IP committee and forgive my memory but I do not
>remember this as stated by John. The committee as I understand it is
>for the purpose of chewing over complex issues and then advising the
>board which ultimately makes the decision.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Jones" <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:42:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Robert Pries "
><101p@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The precedent has been that for a simple, straightforward
>request, such as the one I am making, it has always been approved by
>the full board and not a committee. Case in point John Jones
>presented a request from the New Zealand iris Society at this Spring
>meeting. It did not go through the intellectual property committee
>but directly to the board.
>>> Actually I think the reverse is the case. I presented the New
>Zealand Iris Society request to the IP Committee with a
>recommendation that we approve it.
>>>
>>> I may be mistaken but as I understand it, the simple straight
>forward issues are to be handled by the committee, more complex ones
>handled by recommendations from the committee to the board.
>>>
>>> John
>>> __________________
>>> John and Joanne Jones
>>> Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society aisregistrar@irises.org
>>>
>>> John Jones, Chairman, Electronic Services Committee 
>>> aiselectronicsvcs@irises.org
>>>
>>> 35572 Linda Drive
>>> Fremont, CA 94536
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would feel better following the same procedure. I do direct
>appropriate issues to the committee. I have submitted, a separate
>question from a member, to the intellectual property committee. That
>was a policy issue that should have been answered this summer. It has
>yet to be resolved.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jody Nolin" <835963e01@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 5:03:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>>>>
>>>> This sound totally in keeping with our goal of education.
>>>> Since the AIS holds the copyright on World of Irises, and the 
>>>> encyclopedia is AIS, does this even need a motion or can the 
>>>> intellectual property just committee recommend this?
>>>>
>>>> Jody Nolin
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Gerry Snyder 
>>>> <7e2de1ee1@rewrite.aisboard.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> If "The World of Iris" were an actively-selling book this might
>be 
>>>>> questionable, but in the present circumstances I don't see any
>problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry Snyder
>>>>> Intellectual Property Committee member
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/8/2014 9:36 AM, Robert Pries wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been busy putting articles from old journals onto the 
>>>>>> Encyclopedia and from more recent B  journals as I can get 
>>>>>> copyright permission. To this end I would like to make the 
>>>>>> following motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The AIS gives permission to copy chapters from b The World of 
>>>>>> Irisb  to be included into various topic areas of the
>Encyclopedia.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Pries
>
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