RE: New Motion

["Veronica Johnson" <93ec31ec1@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

I agree with Bob.  The copyright belongs to the AIS, and any  AIS copyrighted material can be used within the AIS.  

However, given what happened with All Things Plants, I am concerned that for-profit sites will try to purloin the info.  Whatever we do, let's post the copyright notice prominently and let them know what they need to do to get permission to reprint (or re-post) the information.    

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Snyder
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:34 PM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion

To Bob and all,

I do not see any need to table the motion.

The one-week discussion period currently underway seems ample for any other members of the IP committee to raise objections or bring up issues to talk about. The deafening silence makes it clear to me that there are not any.

Going ahead with the vote on the normal schedule makes sense.

Gerry Snyder
IP Committee member

On 9/10/2014 12:29 PM, Robert Pries wrote:
> The issue of placing chapters from the World Of Iris in my mind is more a strategic plan issue than a copyright issue and as such I think it appropriate to bring it to the full board. AIS owns the copyright and it is AIS using the material.
>
>   To me the underlying question is does AIS want to be the leading source of Iris information on the internet?
>
> I have explained that the principle competitors for that title are Davebs Garden and All Things Plants (ATP). Presently the wiki leads both of them in numbers of people coming for Iris information. But ATP I am sure would like to challenge our prominent position and their theft of the Iris Register reinforces that view. Despite that loss, the wiki continues to grow by 36% over last year and if we can flesh out some of our topic areas with the material requested I believe its growth will continue to accelerate.
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> That said it is not my intent to circumvent any committee. I am requesting that my motion be tabled for a couple of weeks so that the IP committee can provide their consult to the board. I suppose I address that request to Bob Hollingworth, who I understand is the current chair.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jones" <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:39:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>
> The latest version of the AIS IP Policy document developed by the Ad Hoc committee consisting of:
> Veronica Johnson
> John Jones
> Andi Rivarola
> Janet Smith
> Gerry Snyder
>
> and, I believe, was the version presented to, and approved by, the AIS Board, says in Para II. B:
>
> "To review all requests for use of AIS intellectual property, referring any especially sensitive issues to the AIS Board of Directors board; reporting all recommendations to the AIS Board of Directors;"
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> I believe my previous statement, while not an exact quotation, accurately reflected the intent of the recommendation.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
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> John and Joanne Jones
> Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society aisregistrar@irises.org
>
> John Jones, Chairman, Electronic Services Committee 
> aiselectronicsvcs@irises.org
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> 35572 Linda Drive
> Fremont, CA 94536
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> On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Robert Pries <101p@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
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>> I am on the IP committee and forgive my memory but I do not remember this as stated by John. The committee as I understand it is for the purpose of chewing over complex issues and then advising the board which ultimately makes the decision.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Jones" <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:42:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 6:05 PM, "Robert Pries " <101p@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
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>>> The precedent has been that for a simple, straightforward request, such as the one I am making, it has always been approved by the full board and not a committee. Case in point John Jones presented a request from the New Zealand iris Society at this Spring meeting. It did not go through the intellectual property committee but directly to the board.
>> Actually I think the reverse is the case. I presented the New Zealand Iris Society request to the IP Committee with a recommendation that we approve it.
>>
>> I may be mistaken but as I understand it, the simple straight forward issues are to be handled by the committee, more complex ones handled by recommendations from the committee to the board.
>>
>> John
>> __________________
>> John and Joanne Jones
>> Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society aisregistrar@irises.org
>>
>> John Jones, Chairman, Electronic Services Committee 
>> aiselectronicsvcs@irises.org
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>> 35572 Linda Drive
>> Fremont, CA 94536
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>>> I would feel better following the same procedure. I do direct appropriate issues to the committee. I have submitted, a separate question from a member, to the intellectual property committee. That was a policy issue that should have been answered this summer. It has yet to be resolved.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jody Nolin" <835963e01@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 5:03:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] New Motion
>>>
>>> This sound totally in keeping with our goal of education.
>>> Since the AIS holds the copyright on World of Irises, and the 
>>> encyclopedia is AIS, does this even need a motion or can the 
>>> intellectual property just committee recommend this?
>>>
>>> Jody Nolin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Gerry Snyder 
>>> <7e2de1ee1@rewrite.aisboard.org
>>>> wrote:
>>>> If "The World of Iris" were an actively-selling book this might be 
>>>> questionable, but in the present circumstances I don't see any problems.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry Snyder
>>>> Intellectual Property Committee member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/2014 9:36 AM, Robert Pries wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been busy putting articles from old journals onto the 
>>>>> Encyclopedia and from more recent B  journals as I can get 
>>>>> copyright permission. To this end I would like to make the 
>>>>> following motion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The AIS gives permission to copy chapters from b The World of 
>>>>> Irisb  to be included into various topic areas of the Encyclopedia.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Pries

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