RE: Youth Protection Policy and E Memberships

[Susan Boyce <irisgal@hotmail.com>]

Hi all,
   As a mother of 8 active facebook users, two of which are current AIS Youth,
and I also am a user of facebook, I thought that I would chime in.
As Cheryl stated, she is worried about the possible violation of the Youth
Protection Policy via various facebook sites.
   I'm not going to address the facts of the individual youth members having
their own facebook pages.  That is the responisibility of them and their
parents.
   BUT, if an affiliate or a Region has a facebook page and does show
pictures, list ages, and name the city where the youth live, in my opinion
that would violate the Youth Protection Policy.  I have been surprized by what
information I have been able to see and obtain just by being friends with one
person.  As an example, I  have a facebook friend, Teresa, a gal I went to
high school with.  Teresa is a facebook friend with her daughter Pam.  Pam is
a facebook friend with Rachele, who is Pam's friend.  When I log into my
facebook account, I can see all of the conversations that Teresa has with her
friends.  I also see all of the information that Pam posts and also all of the
information that Rachele posts to facebook.  With just me logging on, I see
lots of information that is passed along to others just because they have
facebook friends.  If the affiliates and or regions post pictures and
information about the youth, as you can see, that information goes out in alot
of different directions, some of which could go to possible bad persons with
ill intent.
  Susan Boyce


> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 22:44:15 -0400
> From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Youth Protection Policy and E Memberships
>
> In answer to Cheryl's point that a youth could join and not identify
themselves as a youth and then I would not know it. Seems to me a bit silly
that if I did not know it then the SYkos you speak of would not know it
either. Nothing appears on these sites that is untoward or it will be deleted
alomg with the person who put something like that up. It seems we are trying
to invent problems that do not exist. It would be far more profitable to talk
about what are some good ways in which you use the internet with our youth
members.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul W Gossett" <pwgossett@juno.com>
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:55:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Youth Protection Policy and E Memberships
>
> Cheryl and All,
>
> I too have no clue about Facebook since I do not use nor do I know
> anything about it, along with twitter and all of the other Internet chat
> sites.
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> Paul
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> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:33:56 -0700 cheryl deaton
> <region15kids@hotmail.com> writes:
> > Bob,
> > I am clueless as to how Facebook works, but how would you know any
> > 'friend'
> > was a youth member? They are not identified in any way as a youth
> > member,
> > just an AIS member, so unless they identified themselves to you as a
> > youth,
> > you would not have access to that information. I agree that if the
> > youth has
> > a Facebook page and joins groups it is not the responsibility of
> > AIS, but
> > there is the possibility that it COULD happen and the sickos are out
> > there...just check the website of Megan's Law!
> > Cheryl
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:10:15 -0400
> > > From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> > > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Youth Protection Policy and E
> > Memberships
> > >
> > > As keeper of the AIS facebook page, I am not aware of any youth
> > that are
> > friends. I do not seek out youth to join the page and if they did,
> > presumably
> > they would already have their own facebook page. The fact that they
> > have
> > connected to the AIS page should not be the responsibility of the
> > AIS. Members
> > of AIS could be terrible felons but I we do not have a
> > responsibility to judge
> > someone who wants to join. It is not AIS publishing data about
> > someone, but
> > someone putting data about thenselves out, and connecting it to our
> > sites. The
> > club sites, including AIS proper and the many affiliate sites are
> > putting out
> > information about club activities and iris, not information about
> > individual
> > youths. To think there is a problem here seems like a really
> > distorted idea of
> > they way the world works. I do agree that youth should not be
> > putting some
> > things on their facebook pages but that is their responsibility and
> > their
> > parents not ours.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John I Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> > > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:42:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Youth Protection Policy and E
> > Memberships
> > >
> > > Some initial thoughts on the Facebook issue:
> > >
> > > If the purpose of the Club Facebook page is to communicate with
> > club
> > > members (only) then having a youth club member listed as a
> > "Friend"
> > > would be restricted to club members who already know that they are
> > > youth. The youth are of course responsible for their own profiles.
> > >
> > > If the purpose of the Club Facebook account is also to communicate
> > > with, or be accessible by, non-club members (e.g., the general
> > > public) then I would say it would be inappropriate to list youth
> > as
> > > "Friends"
> > >
> > > Be that as it may, there is always a risk associated with
> > identifying
> > > youth, and the most conservative position would be to not list any
> > > youth as friends.
> > >
> > > I am sure that Bob Plank will be able to tell us what we need to
> > do
> > > to adequately protect ourselves.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:11 AM, cheryl deaton wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, if an AIS Youth Member has a Facebook page, is this in
> > > > violation of the AIS Youth Protection Policy if their club also
> > has
> > > > a Facebook
> > > > account and the Youth members are listed as 'friends'?
> > > >
> > > > I think we need to address the Youth Protection Policy
> > guidelines
> > > > in light of
> > > > the fact that many youth members are on the Internet for a
> > variety
> > > > of reasons
> > > > and when the policy was implememted our reasoning was valid, but
> > > > may not be at
> > > > this time. I value your imput.
> > > > Cheryl Deaton, AIS Youth Chair
> > > >
> > > >
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