Re: [AISdiscuss] Handbook Revision

[Judy Keisling <keisling@swbell.net>]

I agree with Roy. The point scale should be guidelines only -- not requirements.

"E. Roy Epperson" <kirklee@triad.rr.com> wrote:  During my tenure with Exhibitions, the 2 most often asked questions (expressed
concerns) were about the partially open bloom requirement and what constitutes
a Blue ribbon, etc.?

As we approach the 2007 Edition of the Handbook, I am trying to remove any
"sore spots" and ambiguities.

I am quite open to point scale GUIDELINES for blue, red, white, but I do not
think that we should make these REQUIREMENTS.

Comments?

E. Roy Epperson

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> In a message dated 9/30/2006 2:59:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> eepperson@triad.rr.com writes:
>
> For consideration (from E. Roy Epperson, Chair, Handbook Revision
> Committee):
>
> That the following exhibition judging requirement (1998 Handbook for
Judges
> and Show Officials, page 68) be deleted.
>
> "A partially open bloom must be evaluated as a fully opened flower. This
> specimen can receive a maximum of 10 (from a possible 15) points for form
> because a partially opened flower canot be thoroughly examined."
>
>
>
>
> Roy,
>
> What is the rationale for removing this? And what would the alternate
> "judging" position be regarding points for partially open blooms? For as
long as
> I can remember as a Judge at shows (over 50 at this time) this has been
> accepted practice. A loss of 5 points minimum for this trait means that
the rest
> of the bloom stalk and flowers must be very good indeed in order for the
> cultivar to earn a blue ribbon.
>
> I would like to see us address a position that a cultivar must point scale
> 90 points out of 100 to qualify for a blue, no less than 80 (possibly 85)
for a
> red and 70 (possibly 75) for a white ribbon. Other plant societies that I
> am a member and judge of require minimum scales and are very strict in
their
> evaluation of cultivars. I think our current flexibility is admirable but
> way too easy, and as a result I have seen blue ribbons awarded to
substandard
> specimens. Even youth members want to earn their ribbons not have them
> "given" to them. The kids are pretty savvy. I would be interested in the
> perception of others to this subject.
>
> Jim M.
>
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