Re: Re: Registration Images; Putative motion


These are all good comments and should be considered by whatever
working group is convened.
We should talk to the Spuria Iris Society about how their digital
checklist works.

I would like to see us get to the point of offering a searchable
digital checklist as well.


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Susan Grigg <irismom@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> As I understand from Bob's putative motion, he suggests a Registration
> Committee to work out by July 4, 2011 the requirements for the photo
> accompanying the registration. At the fall Board meeting or earlier online a
> motion outlining details of photo submission could be made and discussed.
> (Currently, the American Hemerocallis Society accepts a digital photo, a
> slide, or a print with each registration.)
>
> I believe that with this timeline AIS could begin to REQUIRE a photo by the
> 2013 registration year.
>
> Susan Grigg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
> On Behalf Of cheryl deaton
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:23 AM
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative motion
>
> Bob,
> I like what you've started, but I really think it is too wordy and needs a
> bit
> of tweaking; maybe more than one motion? I also think that if we begin
> "requesting" that we should implement a time frame for "requiring", such as
> Jan. 1, 2015.  That would give us plenty of time to get our act together (I
> hope!). As to SUGGESTED guidelines, our photo contest has requirements, so
> why
> shouldn't  our registration? At this time, do other Iris societies have
> photo
> requirements or other ways to ensure accuracy of iris
> registrations/descriptions? What do they do? We really need to do some
> research into this.
>
> I think the hybridizer/photographer would need to sign a waiver releasing
> the
> photo for use by AIS in the proscribed manner while retaining their
> copyrights.  Just my thoughts.
> Cheryl
>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:39:33 -0400
>> From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; Putative motion
>>
>> Here is a motion I would suggest that conveys my thoughts, I think it is
> consistent with what most everyone has been saying;
>>
>> That the AIS registrar begin asking for images with new registrations;
> These
> will be accepted with understanding that the AIS will archive them in the
> AIS
> Library and display them on the Iris Encyclopedia and they will be available
> for other AIS uses, but that the photographer retains all other rights for
> their use, such as in the hybridizers catalog, and for any purpose for which
> the hybridizer/photographer gives permission. This should be viewed as only
> a
> first step towards the possibility of requiring images with registration,
> and
> that requirement should be considered in conjunction with the other national
> Iris Societies. That also the President of AIS be empowered to create a
> registration committee that can facilitate the implementation of the
> collection, archiving and disposition of the images. That this committee
> should also create SUGGESTED guidelines for required images by July 4th 2011
> and that these be reviewed as needed such that the guidelines evolve based
> on
> the!
>> compliance and practicality.
>>
>> I prefer the idea of doing something immediately that is not mandatory and
> discovering the pitfalls, than not doing anything in the hopes of getting a
> perfected full-blown policy. That can come later.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: RUTHBB@aol.com
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:13:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; AHS Daylily Cultivar
> Search
>>
>> Excellent! Click on the thumbnail and you get a nice size picture!
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/15/2011 10:08:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> irismom@nc.rr.com writes:
>>
>> Sorry. I've discovered that 'Primal Scream' was registered before AHS
> began
>> using pictures. Try 'Carolina Spirit' or 'Big Chill'.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
>> On Behalf Of RUTHBB@aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:59 PM
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: Registration Images; AHS Daylily Cultivar
>> Search
>>
>> Susan, I didn't get a picture with Primal Scream. But I see pics when I
>> click on 'show all daylilies'
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/15/2011 9:00:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> irismom@nc.rr.com writes:
>>
>> To let you see what another plant society has done for years with
>> pictures
>> and their registration of cultivars, go to the Daylily Registration
>> database
>> listed below. If you need a name of a daylily to get into the database try
>> using 'Primal Scream'.
>> Susan Grigg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.daylilies.org/DaylilyDB/
>>
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