RE: Registration Images

["Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>]

Hi Ron and Susan
Hey! Somebody knows about orchids!
I joined AOS around 1980. I signed up for judges training after I retired as
managing editor for AIS about 3 years ago. I attend the NW monthly judging
center in Silverton, Oregon. I have both the AQ and Orchid WIZ programs and
I am doing extensive breeding with orchids. Since I deal almost exclusively
with hybrids, I am having a terrible time trying to pass the first
apprentice test which is to identify and correctly spell 100 species. UGG!!!
I am presently Vice President of the Portland Orchid Society and I
participate in about 3 or 4 shows a year. I regularly win best of class in
the Odontoglossum class because I grow a lot of cool growing plants. I do
ribbon judging and participate in the judges point scoring. At our last
show, I was asked to point score one of Theresa Hill's Masdevallias - BEFORE
the 5 judges did. I gave it a 92 point FCC - which is exactly what the
judges came up with so I feel pretty good about that part of it anyway.
I got a 79 point HCC on a Paph. Fumi's Delight 'Salmon Creek'. The paperwork
is still moving around somewhere? Some day it will show up.
Anyway, the orchid society does not require a photograph at registration
time. They do, automatically, take pictures (By a 3rd party professional
photographer) when a plant is awarded something. This, I think, is an
excellent way to separate the "wheat from the chaff". 
Terry 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of RON AND SUSAN COSNER
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:22 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Registration Images

Hi Terry. Some things to remember about orchids they have in excess of 53k
pictures and descriptions. Yes these are of awarded plants but in their
judging system that is possible. You not only can get awards at shows which
there are several areas in the U.S. that are hot beds for this but they also
have judging centers that meet once a month where students receive training
and there are teams of judges there that evaluate and award plants. They
also
will utilize the pictures and descriptions as training aids. In Florida
alone
you have 3-5 judging centers. They and other plant groups have had the same
issues of touch up in photos. These are all good points you bring up to
consider and learn to succede in spite of. Thank you and happy growing
Ron and
Sue Cosner



> From: terry@flowerfantasy.net
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Registration Images
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 10:09:55 -0700
>
> The idea that Mike and Anne are receiving pictures of introduction
> is news to me. They have never asked and I have never sent images. Ever
> since we went to a color catalog - about 15 to 20 years ago - we have
> offered all of our intos with color pictures. With an average of 10 per
year
> (our own quota system), the 35mm slide days, I thought it was a waste of
> time trying to collect images of plants UNLESS THEY WON AWARDS. I have
long
> thought that, like the orchid society, we should have images of plants
that
> are awarded. (the world is full of plants that aren't.)
> Now, in the digital age, an image can be a double edged sword. It
> can show how GOOD or HOW BAD a plant can really look. Another dimension to
> this is PHOTOSHOP. Enormous tricks can be played on the viewer by
messaging
> an image - removing faults like narrow falls or adding colors that the
real
> thing does not have. How much do you want to pay the computer operator to
> come up with a fictitious image? (I will admit to removing leaf spot, dead
> buds and torn petals on some of my images but I know it can go much
farther)
> In addition, color accuracy on computer screens and projectors has been a
> notoriously bad problem.
> Then there is the issue of the skill of the photographer. Some
> photographers are very good at hiding faults like haft marks by simply
> changing the angle of the flower. How good a story does the picture tell?
A
> photographer, unskilled in iris evaluation, may shoot a flower partly open
> or partly dead or awkwardly twisted - quite repulsive to the average iris
> judge or purchaser.
> While the system is fraught with pitfalls, the concept of AN
> INFORMED PUBLIC is a good one. Perhaps some of our more computer literate
> irisarians can address the pitfalls?
>
> Terry Aitken
>
> If I have a color image to look at, I will not bother with a written
> description.
>
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