Re: the rule of "only one motion under discussion at any one time"


John,

The link you requested is http://www.aipparl.org/pdf/AIPemeet5.PDF
It also includes several other articles that are germane to the subject.

Dennis


----- Original Message ----- From: "John I Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
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Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] the rule of "only one motion under discussion at any one time"

Denis,

I would certainly be glad to look at the procedures you reference if you would care to send me their document or post a link to it.
Just base on what you say below, I would not be inclined to want yet 
another committee (which in our case as Hal points out are generally  a 
single person and not a true committee) to complicate the process.
Thanks

John

On Mar 30, 2010, at 7:31 PM, R. Dennis Hager wrote:

There is no doubt that Roberts' Rules does not adequately cover asynchronous electronic meetings. Rather than reinvent the wheel, it would make sense to study and possibly adopt the American Speech- Language-Hearing Association electronic meetings procedure. One key way that the ASLHA procedure differs is that the resolutions committee (parliamentarian?) determines the timeline for discussion and voting on each resolution when it is introduced. In addition to the MAIN motion, SECONDARY motions may also be allowed.
I agree that the current system is quite limiting, however I also  feel 
that having multiple motions being debated simultaneously may 
significantly diminish the quality of the debate and cause  confusion. I 
file all AISDiscuss mail in one folder. As I count it,  there are at 
least 4 topics being discussed today. Oy vey!
Submitted by your Organizational Gadfly, aka Dennis Hager


----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Stahly"  <hlstahly@umich.edu>
To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] the rule of "only one motion under discussion at any one time"

Hello,

I have 2 cents' (or maybe only 1 cent's) worth to throw in on this subject.
The limitation, only one motion at a time on the floor, probably   stems 
from Roberts' Rules.  There is no reason that AIS must  follow  this 
rule, although it makes much sense when conducting  business in a 
general meeting.  Conducting business  electronically is quite a 
different type of reality, where  discussants are widely separated and 
it is impossible to have the  immediacy that face to face put-and-take 
discussion provides. So  a two week discussion period makes a lot of 
sense in electronic  meeting.  But why only one motion at a time? 
Allowing an  unlimited number would certainly lead to confusion; but a 
reasonable few motions, say limited to 4 to 6 or so, would be   entirely 
within the capability of board members to keep clearly   separate in 
their thinking and discussion.
AIS bylaws state that Roberts' Rules prevail in situations where  AIS 
rules, bylaws or standing rules, do not apply.  There is also  in AIS 
bylaws a provision  that specifically stipulates that the  officers  and 
directors have total authority in conducting the  affairs of the 
society. I see no reason that the board can not  adopt a standing  rule 
that allows greater freedom in the number  of motions that can be  on 
the floor in electronic conducting of  business.  The one-at-a-time 
rule, applied with a reasonable  period necessary for complete 
discussion, seriously limits the  amount of business that can be 
conducted electronically.
I hope this is something that the board can consider sometime in  the 
not too distant future.
Best wishes to all of you,

Hal Stahly

On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Michelle Snyder wrote:

John,

If you are really making a new motion it can not be intertained until the period for voting on the existing motion has ceased which won't be until April 5.
Michelle

On 3/30/2010 8:03 AM, John I Jones wrote:
I move that the AIS immediately stop offering multiple year Irisregister subscriptions.
John

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