Re: Website and Statistics
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- Subject: Re: Website and Statistics
- From: "Jim Morris" <1005@rewrite.aisboard.org>
- Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 18:52:14 -0400 (EDT)
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Thanks John for your detailed reply. I know you don't intend for our web
site to be a mystery but I do believe it to be so to many on our board.
None of us are professional web designers but we have seen many beautiful
sites and perhaps some of us have participated in the design process in their
club or region or section.
I believe we need a goal and some facts about who accesses our web site and
what we want to do as an organization with our site. It would be a help
if AIS in general had some long term goals and objectives. Lacking that
how can the board in reality judge the quality of the site or the checks and
balances of navigation architecture? I am sure that you are correct that
the process is complicated and without the process code a thorough review is
not possible (except maybe to a hacker), however I grow weary of
responding to all those who complain that they can't find whatever they are looking
for quickly on our site. The two designers I consulted have designed
literally hundreds of web sites. Their cursory review found our site not
intuitive, static and in their opinion outdated compared to current architecture.
I'm not that critical myself as I think the site attractive, trust your
judgement, and know you worked hard with the designers to implement what the
board apparently wanted some years ago. I've been on the board for 13-1/2
years as a director and officer and quite frankly I can't remember
whatever it was that was approved nor when. A review and updating of that need
might be appropriate at this time before we expend any money for menu
re-design.
I just want the board to have the necessary facts to make a reasonable
judgement for the best interests of AIS, whatever that might be. Thanks for
your efforts and concern.
Jim Morris
President
American Iris Society
P. S. The chart you refer to did not come through on my email from you.
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In a message dated 6/9/2014 2:44:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
100h@rewrite.aisboard.org writes:
Perhaps I can allay some concerns about the project.
President Morris posted:
"Designer A: "$1200 for only a new menu is actually insane. If
they're redoing the entire web site, then that price is appropriate. Not
menu
only, though."
Designer B: "Adding a few links should only take a few minutes of
someone's time. A change to links does not typically require art assets
to be
redone."
Let's apply a little bit of a reality test to the comments above:
Is there anyone on the board that really believes that it were as easy as
"only a few minutes" as these "professional designers" have said, that I
would not have changed the navigation already? In fact, given the suggestions
that have come up over the years, I would have done it several times (or
rather, presented a new version to the Board for approval)
The individuals that have made these comments have not taken the time to
investigate what platform and utilities our website is built on or to
understand the fact that the underlying background graphic needs to be changed to
allow additional menu items to be added so they don't overlay parts of the
graphic. Additionally the script that generates the menu cascades has to be
modified. The modifications have to be made to the home page and the five
templates we use for all the other pages on the website.
The restriction on the navigation architecture we designed in the
beginning was explained to the board before we implemented the project.
President Morris has asked that AWSTATS be installed on our website.
Unfortunately that is not possible. Our website runs on what is known as a
shared server and Lunar Pages will not allow AWSTATS. If we wanted that
particular program we would have to switch to a dedicated server for a cost of
roughly $30.00 per month above the $20.00 per month we currently pay.
There are other free programs that can be integrated into our website.
They require that some code be inserted on our pages but that is not a
overwhelming effort and I will integrate that code and generate reports on a
scheduled basis.
I don't make changes to the website changes without consulting the board.
Every change that has been made was made with the approval of the board. I
also don't waste money on frivolous projects. I finish projects that I
start. I have a track record that proves all that.
I will commit to the following:
If the motion to fund the navigation panel and the affected graphic areas
upgrade is passed:
I will immediately start the process of installing the code that will
provide statistics and we can start to collect the numbers. It will take a
while to collect meaningful data. Chris Hollinshead has some health issues at
the moment and is not available to assist in this effort.
I will start the project to redesign the background graphic and the code
for the navigation menus of home and template pages so we know how many
additional menu items we will have room for. We can't make reasonable
judgements on a new navigation architecture until we know how much space we have. Oth
erwise it would be like trying to build a car engine without knowing how
big the engine compartment was. The home page is the only difficult page.
The other pages follow on a limited number of templates.
When we have sufficient statistical data to make thoughtful judgement on
what the top level and submenu items should be, we can submit and get board
approval on the new navigation architecture, just as I did before
implementing the current architecture.
The final version of the home page and navigation panel will be presented
to the board for approval before it is implemented.
Because we will have new and ongoing statistical information, and because
we will have the great deal more flexibility than we have today with the
top level menu items, we will have the ability to modify all levels of the
menu structure iteratively as frequently as the situation warrants and the
board desires.
I have provided the statistics we currently have available before, but
certainly not on a regular basis. The chart below shows the most recent daily
averages and monthly totals
Thanks
John
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John and Joanne Jones
Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society
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