Re: Where Should We Be Discussing Topics LikeCAPS?

[Wayne Messer <6d200f2f1@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

Thank you John,

I was aware that AISDiscuss has archives and checked them to see what type
of topics we had considered in the last year.  Do we publicize the
archives?  I don't remember how I found out about them; I suspect it came
up in some search I was doing.

If we do not publicize the archives and that anyone can post to it, would
you like us to?  We can certainly put a link to it in News & Notes
readily.  And the Irises Bulletin could have an article and maybe some of
the topics.

Regards,

Wayne Messer



On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:17 AM, John Jones <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just some clarification:
>
> AISDiscuss goes to Board members, committee chairs AND
> RVPs, Section and Cooperating Societies.
>
> I should also say that it is up to individuals and societies to let the
> AIS Secretary know when personnel or contact information changes so we can
> have a list with up-to-date contact information.
>
> We also have an RVP list and and Affiliates list that can be used to send
> out mesages. But again they are only as good as the contact information for
> them.
>
> Additionally the archives of AISDiscuss, located at aisboard.org, are
> open to anyone who cares to go there, no password or ID required. I know of
> several people that routinely review the messages there.
>
> However Janet is certainly correct that it is up to the individual to pass
> information along to anyone who they think might be interested, although
> that happens with varying degrees of enthusiasm.
>
> There are also other email lists: iris@hort.net, iris-photos, sibrob,
> spaceagerobin, iris-species, and others that could be used to solicit ideas
> from. (Yea I know, dangling preposition - LOL)
>
> I think we should allow anyone subscribe to AISDiscuss that wants to. We
> should welcome comments from any source. We may not agree with or use all
> of the ideas, but you never know where the new idea will come from. I know
> occasionally we have an inappropriate post or someone thinks they can
> really send an anonymous text message, but you just dismiss that sort of
> thing considering the source.
>
> If posting relevant parts of the CAPS reports on the AIS blog would
> solicit some comments, I think it would be worth it.
>
> John
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:04 AM, "Janet Smith" <4f80107e1@rewrite.aisboard.org>
> wrote:
>
> > 1. Not everyone can afford to got to conventions or fall board
> > meetings.
> > 2. AISDiscuss only goes to Board members and committee chairs, so
> > your audience is limited.
> > 3. Many RVP's are silent to their affiliates, so the word does not
> > get out to them.
> > 4. The Directors in the Regions are even more silent to the
> > affiliates they oversee, so the word does not get out.
> > 5. It is not in the IRISES Bulletin, so...
> > 6. Not in your Newsletter.....  But that is only if they have a
> > computer.  For those members who do not have a computer they are left
> > out.
> > 7. Facebook and Blog are not the place for this.
> >
> > I keep hearing we should-----when am I going to hear ---- its done!
> >
> > Janet Smith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Original Message ----
> > From: 101p@rewrite.aisboard.org
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Where Should We Be Discussing Topics
> > LikeCAPS?
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >> Wayne you are correct in that AIS Discuss is not exactly the venue of
> >> choice for continued discussion. Since I was commissioned by the
> >> board to attend and report I wanted to give an overview to the
> >> society. Further discussion of for example of the copyright issue
> >> will occur in the intellectual property committee. Continued
> >> discussion of what we can do for the future to improve the society
> >> will occur in the strategic planning committee.
> >>
> >> I decided it was important for everyone to know of our being a part
> >> of CAPS for several reasons. Much of what the board does is not known
> >> throughout the organization. This is not because it is in closed
> >> board meetings but because few other than board members attend board
> >> meetings. Secondly I wanted to get some information out so that board
> >> members and other parties could do their homework. If one has a
> >> chance to contemplate these issues before the fall meeting the
> >> discussion can be much more productive. And third I know there are
> >> very creative members who are not on the board that may be able to
> >> offer totally new perspectives on these problems.
> >>
> >> The issues involved in whether we succeed in making it to our hundred
> >> birthday in 6 years as a robust AIS are issues that should be thought
> >> about at all levels, from affiliates to regions to national and to
> >> each section. Despite the fact that each of these units functions
> >> quite independently we are also quite dependent on them all working
> >> together. While the wiki by definition is a collaboration platform
> >> perhaps half of the officers of all of these groups are even
> >> registered as wiki users so that they could post.
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Wayne Messer" <6d200f2f1@rewrite.aisboard.org>
> >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:53:10 PM
> >> Subject: [AISdiscuss] Where Should We Be Discussing Topics Like CAPS?
> >>
> >> Bob's ongoing reports on CAPS and initial concerns about limited
> >> response
> >> make me wonder:  Is AISDiscuss the best place to have some of these
> >> discussions?  I've only been on AISDiscuss for a year; so I'm not
> >> aware of
> >> how and where some of the discussions take place.  It seems to be a
> >> good
> >> place for AIS business and notices; however, dealing with issues such
> >> as
> >> what can we learn from CAPS and what should we do are more
> >> problematic.
> >> Maybe these different types of topics would benefit from a different
> >> approach.
> >>
> >> Bob posting the CAPS reports to this group is useful for at least two
> >> reasons. First, it makes us aware of what is happening in these
> >> meetings
> >> and what topics other groups consider important.  Second, it plants
> >> the
> >> seeds for further discussions and eventually action.  The latter I
> >> would
> >> expect to have a longer time frame and maybe require a different
> >> group.
> >>
> >> I suspect the reports could benefit both from a smaller and from a
> >> larger
> >> group being involved with them.  A smaller group might be better for
> >> brainstorming how to apply some of the lessons learned from CAPS.
> >> And a
> >> larger group, maybe all our membership, should be aware of the topics
> >> and
> >> our interest.  I think it's great that Sue Barnes has shared them
> >> with the
> >> Region's Club presidents and Ron Killingsworth has been sharing with
> >> the
> >> SLI president.
> >>
> >> Do we have other venues that we should use or consider for this?
> >>
> >> As an aid to our discussion and a possible venue, I've created a
> >> (Sandbox)
> >> CAPS Resource page in the Iris Wiki.  It has some links to books and
> >> authors Bob has mentioned as well as other info.  The only topic I
> >> have
> >> steered away from, because of Bob's comments in his discussion, is
> >> copyright.  It I believe is better handled in AISDiscuss or some
> >> other
> >> limited venue because of the legal implications.  You are encouraged
> >> to
> >> check the page out and edit it - it is on a wiki.  You can see the
> >> page at:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Sandbox/CAPSResources
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Wayne Messer
> >>
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