Re: Where Should We Be Discussing Topics LikeCAPS?

["Janet Smith" <4f80107e1@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

Thank you John for the clarification.  Glad to hear the list is
larger than thought.

Janet Smith

---- Original Message ----
From: 100h@rewrite.aisboard.org
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Where Should We Be Discussing Topics
LikeCAPS?
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 09:17:05 -0700

>Hi all,
>
>Just some clarification:
>
>AISDiscuss goes to Board members, committee chairs AND
>RVPs, Section and Cooperating Societies. 
>
>I should also say that it is up to individuals and societies to let
>the AIS Secretary know when personnel or contact information changes
>so we can have a list with up-to-date contact information.
>
>We also have an RVP list and and Affiliates list that can be used to
>send out mesages. But again they are only as good as the contact
>information for them.
>
>Additionally the archives of AISDiscuss, located at aisboard.org, are
>open to anyone who cares to go there, no password or ID required. I
>know of several people that routinely review the messages there.
>
>However Janet is certainly correct that it is up to the individual to
>pass information along to anyone who they think might be interested,
>although that happens with varying degrees of enthusiasm.
>
>There are also other email lists: iris@hort.net, iris-photos, sibrob,
>spaceagerobin, iris-species, and others that could be used to solicit
>ideas from. (Yea I know, dangling preposition - LOL)
>
>I think we should allow anyone subscribe to AISDiscuss that wants to.
>We should welcome comments from any source. We may not agree with or
>use all of the ideas, but you never know where the new idea will come
>from. I know occasionally we have an inappropriate post or someone
>thinks they can really send an anonymous text message, but you just
>dismiss that sort of thing considering the source.
>
>If posting relevant parts of the CAPS reports on the AIS blog would
>solicit some comments, I think it would be worth it.
>
>John
>
>
>On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:04 AM, "Janet Smith"
><4f80107e1@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
>
>> 1. Not everyone can afford to got to conventions or fall board
>> meetings.
>> 2. AISDiscuss only goes to Board members and committee chairs, so
>> your audience is limited.
>> 3. Many RVP's are silent to their affiliates, so the word does not
>> get out to them.
>> 4. The Directors in the Regions are even more silent to the
>> affiliates they oversee, so the word does not get out.
>> 5. It is not in the IRISES Bulletin, so... 
>> 6. Not in your Newsletter.....  But that is only if they have a
>> computer.  For those members who do not have a computer they are
>left
>> out.
>> 7. Facebook and Blog are not the place for this.
>> 
>> I keep hearing we should-----when am I going to hear ---- its done!
>> 
>> Janet Smith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: 101p@rewrite.aisboard.org
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Where Should We Be Discussing Topics
>> LikeCAPS?
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 07:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
>> 
>>> Wayne you are correct in that AIS Discuss is not exactly the venue
>of
>>> choice for continued discussion. Since I was commissioned by the
>>> board to attend and report I wanted to give an overview to the
>>> society. Further discussion of for example of the copyright issue
>>> will occur in the intellectual property committee. Continued
>>> discussion of what we can do for the future to improve the society
>>> will occur in the strategic planning committee. 
>>> 
>>> I decided it was important for everyone to know of our being a
>part
>>> of CAPS for several reasons. Much of what the board does is not
>known
>>> throughout the organization. This is not because it is in closed
>>> board meetings but because few other than board members attend
>board
>>> meetings. Secondly I wanted to get some information out so that
>board
>>> members and other parties could do their homework. If one has a
>>> chance to contemplate these issues before the fall meeting the
>>> discussion can be much more productive. And third I know there are
>>> very creative members who are not on the board that may be able to
>>> offer totally new perspectives on these problems.
>>> 
>>> The issues involved in whether we succeed in making it to our
>hundred
>>> birthday in 6 years as a robust AIS are issues that should be
>thought
>>> about at all levels, from affiliates to regions to national and to
>>> each section. Despite the fact that each of these units functions
>>> quite independently we are also quite dependent on them all
>working
>>> together. While the wiki by definition is a collaboration platform
>>> perhaps half of the officers of all of these groups are even
>>> registered as wiki users so that they could post. 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Wayne Messer" <6d200f2f1@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:53:10 PM
>>> Subject: [AISdiscuss] Where Should We Be Discussing Topics Like
>CAPS?
>>> 
>>> Bob's ongoing reports on CAPS and initial concerns about limited
>>> response
>>> make me wonder:  Is AISDiscuss the best place to have some of
>these
>>> discussions?  I've only been on AISDiscuss for a year; so I'm not
>>> aware of
>>> how and where some of the discussions take place.  It seems to be
>a
>>> good
>>> place for AIS business and notices; however, dealing with issues
>such
>>> as
>>> what can we learn from CAPS and what should we do are more
>>> problematic.
>>> Maybe these different types of topics would benefit from a
>different
>>> approach.
>>> 
>>> Bob posting the CAPS reports to this group is useful for at least
>two
>>> reasons. First, it makes us aware of what is happening in these
>>> meetings
>>> and what topics other groups consider important.  Second, it
>plants
>>> the
>>> seeds for further discussions and eventually action.  The latter I
>>> would
>>> expect to have a longer time frame and maybe require a different
>>> group.
>>> 
>>> I suspect the reports could benefit both from a smaller and from a
>>> larger
>>> group being involved with them.  A smaller group might be better
>for
>>> brainstorming how to apply some of the lessons learned from CAPS. 
>>> And a
>>> larger group, maybe all our membership, should be aware of the
>topics
>>> and
>>> our interest.  I think it's great that Sue Barnes has shared them
>>> with the
>>> Region's Club presidents and Ron Killingsworth has been sharing
>with
>>> the
>>> SLI president.
>>> 
>>> Do we have other venues that we should use or consider for this?
>>> 
>>> As an aid to our discussion and a possible venue, I've created a
>>> (Sandbox)
>>> CAPS Resource page in the Iris Wiki.  It has some links to books
>and
>>> authors Bob has mentioned as well as other info.  The only topic I
>>> have
>>> steered away from, because of Bob's comments in his discussion, is
>>> copyright.  It I believe is better handled in AISDiscuss or some
>>> other
>>> limited venue because of the legal implications.  You are
>encouraged
>>> to
>>> check the page out and edit it - it is on a wiki.  You can see the
>>> page at:
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Sandbox/CAPSResources
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Wayne Messer
>>> 
>>>
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>>> 
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