Re: My second AIS ballot issue -- three iris per class on the Dykes Medal ballot

[Debra Strauss <ccb528001@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

I vote yes

Debbie Strauss
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> On Jul 29, 2014, at 10:23 AM, "Michelle Snyder" <102x@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned my email of 6:54 AM today, the time for discussing/opining on the above motion had concluded and it is now out for vote.   All comments should have been addressed during the period of discussion.
> 
> Michelle
> 
>> On 7/29/2014 7:13 AM, Susan Boyce wrote:
>> Hi all,   I also have concerns about having an iris, that has dropped off the
>> ballot, being put back on due to no other iris being the Special Medal winner
>> in a particular year.  It is totally unfair to other irises that have been
>> dropped, to have irises put back on to give them a second chance to win.  I
>> also feel that an iris that has not won the Special medal should not be
>> considered for the Dykes, just because we have to have "three cultivars of
>> each classification" on the eligibility list for Dykes.   I would be extremely
>> hesitant to ever vote for irises that are on the ballot for these two reasons.
>> I would like to see the "three cultivars" requirement dropped.Susan Boyce >
>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:43:56 -0700> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org> Subject:
>> [AISdiscuss] My second AIS ballot issue -- three iris per class on the Dykes
>> Medal ballot> From: 7e2de1ee1@rewrite.aisboard.org> > Since my previous item
>> is being voted on, I want to get this one being > discussed now, so that it
>> can be handled immediately. It is even more > complicated than the first one,
>> I am afraid.> > One rule probably known by few judges is that the ballot for
>> the Dykes > Medal is supposed to include at least three cultivars from each
>> class of > irises. The text of the appropriate section of the Handbook is
>> below.> > "To ensure that there will always be three cultivars of each >
>> classification of iris on the eligibility list for the Dykes Memorial > Medal
>> on the Official Ballot, the iris which wins the Dykes Memorial > Medal will be
>> replaced on the list by the Special Medal winner and the > first runner-up
>> (and second runner-up, if necessary) for that > classification of iris
>> (excepting tall bearded where three Special > Medals are awarded each year).
>> Any iris deemed eligible for the Dykes > Medal which has not won the Special
>> Medal for its classification will > retain its normal eligibility for its
>> classification Special Medal."> >   I have two issues with the way this is
>> handled in the Handbook:> > 1) when fewer than three candidates would be
>> available in a class, the > current rule is to use runner(s)-up from the
>> Special Medal ballot in > that class. Two things bother me about this---it
>> means that an iris will > be on the ballot in two places, the Special Medal
>> and the Dykes Medal; > and it means that an iris will be on the Dykes Medal
>> ballot, for the > best iris in the land, without having won the Special Medal
>> as the best > iris in its class. That just seems wrong. I would much prefer
>> that an > earlier winner of the Special Medal, that had been on the Dykes
>> Medal > ballot but had dropped off after its three years, be put back.> >
>> Therefore I am suggesting that the rule (but not necessarily the wording > in
>> the Handbook) be changed to the following, and that the appropriate > motion
>> to do so be made after the current voting is completed:> > "In cases where
>> there would otherwise be fewer than three irises on the > ballot for the Dykes
>> Medal in any iris class, the most recent earlier > winner(s) of the Special
>> Medal in that class that have been dropped from > the Dykes Medal ballot shall
>> be added back to the ballot in order to > bring the number of candidates up to
>> three."> > 2) there are two ways I am aware of by which fewer than three
>> candidates > could be normally available, and the Handbook mentions only
>> one---a > nonTB winning the Dykes Medal in its first or second year of
>> eligibility > (if it wins in the third year it would have dropped off the
>> ballot any > way). The other way is that a Special Medal could be won by an
>> iris > originated outside the US and Canada, but first introduced here. Such
>> an > iris is eligible for all awards on the AIS ballot except the Dykes >
>> Medal. If this happens there will again be only two iris in that class > on
>> the DM ballot. In my opinion, fixing this part does not require AIS > Board
>> action, since the rule is "at least three cultivars per iris > class" and the
>> part about there being fewer than three because of a > non-TB willing is just
>> an incomplete explanation that can be handled in > the on-going Handbook
>> revision process.> > Gerry Snyder> Awards Chair> >
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