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I also thank Susan for listening to hours of tapes
of very long Board Meetings to get a definitive answers on exactly what ever
eventually set forth as a Motion!
Rita Gormley
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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:16
PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Wiki and
Irisregister
I would also like to thank Susan for the time spent in
researching this subject and the clarification
presented.
Michelle
On 1/20/2010 9:10 PM, Susan Boyce wrote:
Hi all,
I have been following the discussion on the wiki
and I wanted to check the meeting minutes for exactly what was said, so
for the last few hours I have been reviewing the board meeting minutes
on the tapes, the board meeting motions, and the board discussions. I
hate to be the bearer of bad news, but,,,,, The wiki was NEVER formally
approved by the board.
The photo wiki idea
was brought up at the Nov 07 board meeting. The value of a photo wiki
was discussed and the following reasons were given for a photo wiki.
1.
The photo wiki will have iris pictures available for iris
sales.
2. The photo wiki will give people a chance to look at
numerous photos of one iris cultivar.
3. The photo wiki will have
info on growth in different areas of the United States.
4. The
photo wiki can have an area for comments on growth and bud
count.
Also mentioned was who is going to responsible for
reviewing the information that goes on the wiki.
Bob
Pries stated that this motion is "in principle" and that it needs
to be worked on.
The board approved the
following: That the AIS investigate a photo wiki for AIS members on
the members only section of the AIS Website. (Note the wording,
"Investigate")
For the 2008 board meetings the wiki was
never brought up.
For the May 2009 board meeting, John
Jones stated in his report that "the AIS wiki establishment
had encountered problems and was going slowly.
During
Bob Pries' report, it was again stated that wiki's have alot of
misinformation, and that monitoring is constantly needed. Also during
Pries' report, President Epperson noted that the wiki would be for
members only in the members only section. Bob Pries wanted the wording
changed so the board approved the wording change in the motion: That
the access to AIS wiki be made available to the general public and that all
entries be reviewed prior to being entered in the wiki. John
Jones also stated that one of the problems in establishing a wiki was in
developing a security shell.
For the Nov 2009 board meeting
the wiki was again talked about, but it was never brought up for
approval.
In my observations the photo wiki idea was
formulated "as a photo wiki" to assist members in downloading pictures for
iris sales, for looking at iris pictures, and growth patterns to evaluate
whether or not they might want to grow a specific iris in their
garden. My question is when did the photo wiki become a wiki
with ALL of the information being listed with the
photos?
Also since this was never officially approved by the
board, what other legal ramifications (copyrights, etc) might there be with
the information being copied onto the wiki.
One more point
to ponder as John stated is, the possibility of lost revenue to the
AISregister, and also possible lost revenue to people not buying the
R&I's. (why buy the R&I's or subscribe to the AISregister, when
anyone can get the information for free?)
I hope that I
didn't step on anyones toes or ruin anyones day, but I thought that I, as
the "official board meeting record keeper", I should review the minutes and
state the facts actually.
On a lighter, happier note, I got
a new grandson last night. I will be flying to Milwaukee, this
Saturday to help my daughter and her family, and staying until until Feb
9th. I will have my laptop with me and my cell phone. If anyone
needs/wants to talk with me they can either email me at irisgal@hotmail.com or call/text me on my
cell phone at (801) 644-7172.
Susan
Boyce
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010
14:33:41 -0700
> From: geraldcsnyder@gmail.com
>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Wiki and Irisregister
>
> gary white
wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I believe that
when the AIS BOD approved the Wiki, implicit in that
> > approval
was the right to use descriptions from the Registrations and
> >
Introductions.
> >
>
> I don't believe that the board
as a whole understood that.
>
> When the Iris Register was
proposed, discussed,, and approved,
> protecting the intellectual
property was a major concern. Use of data
> from the most recent R
& I was not permitted, pending understanding of
> how sales of
the printed R & I would be affected (not to make money,
> just
trying to avoid having a huge unsold inventory). On the other hand,
>
when the wiki was proposed, discussed, and approved the subject was not
> even mentioned. To me that is an indication that it was not being
> thought of.
> > ....
> >
> > I don't
believe a motion is needed. If we go through the process of a
> >
motion approving the use of R&I information for the Wiki, doesn't that
> > then mean that we will also need motions for EVERY other use
of this
> > information.
> >
>
> We needed a
motion to create the wiki. I am hoping to clarify what that
> motion
meant.
>
> The other activities you mention may or may not have
been created by
> board action, but a detailing of what is considered
"proper use" of the
> information may be in order. If one already
exists, I feel sure it
> predates the internet age.
>
>
Of course, if the board feels that wiki use of the data is okay without
> further action, that is fine.Such a consensus would be ideal. I am
not
> in favor of roadblocks.
>
> I really wish this
discussion had occurred when the wiki was being proposed.
>
>
And I must say that I appreciate the positive quality of your email,
Gary.
>
>
> Gerry
>
>
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