I would also like to thank Susan for the time spent in researching this
subject and the clarification presented.
Michelle
On 1/20/2010 9:10 PM, Susan Boyce wrote:
Hi
all,
I have been following the discussion on the wiki and I wanted to
check the meeting minutes for exactly what was said, so for the last
few hours I have been reviewing the board meeting minutes on the tapes,
the board meeting motions, and the board discussions. I hate to be the
bearer of bad news, but,,,,, The wiki was NEVER formally approved by
the board.
The photo wiki idea was brought up at the Nov 07 board meeting. The
value of a photo wiki was discussed and the following reasons were
given for a photo wiki.
1. The photo wiki will have iris pictures available for iris sales.
2. The photo wiki will give people a chance to look at numerous photos
of one iris cultivar.
3. The photo wiki will have info on growth in different areas of
the United States.
4. The photo wiki can have an area for comments on growth and bud count.
Also mentioned was who is going to responsible for reviewing the
information that goes on the wiki.
Bob Pries stated that this motion is "in principle" and that it
needs to be worked on.
The board approved the following: That the AIS investigate a photo
wiki for AIS members on the members only section of the AIS Website.
(Note the wording, "Investigate")
For the 2008 board meetings the wiki was never brought up.
For the May 2009 board meeting, John Jones stated in his report
that "the AIS wiki establishment had encountered problems and was going
slowly.
During Bob Pries' report, it was again stated that wiki's have alot
of misinformation, and that monitoring is constantly needed. Also
during Pries' report, President Epperson noted that the wiki would
be for members only in the members only section. Bob Pries wanted the
wording changed so the board approved the wording change in the
motion: That the access to AIS wiki be made available to the general
public and that all entries be reviewed prior to being entered in the
wiki. John Jones also stated that one of the problems in establishing
a wiki was in developing a security shell.
For the Nov 2009 board meeting the wiki was again talked about, but
it was never brought up for approval.
In my observations the photo wiki idea was formulated "as a photo
wiki" to assist members in downloading pictures for iris sales, for
looking at iris pictures, and growth patterns to evaluate whether or
not they might want to grow a specific iris in their garden. My
question is when did the photo wiki become a wiki with ALL of the
information being listed with the photos?
Also since this was never officially approved by the board, what
other legal ramifications (copyrights, etc) might there be with the
information being copied onto the wiki.
One more point to ponder as John stated is, the possibility of lost
revenue to the AISregister, and also possible lost revenue to people
not buying the R&I's. (why buy the R&I's or subscribe to the
AISregister, when anyone can get the information for free?)
I hope that I didn't step on anyones toes or ruin anyones day, but I
thought that I, as the "official board meeting record keeper", I should
review the minutes and state the facts actually.
On a lighter, happier note, I got a new grandson last night. I will
be flying to Milwaukee, this Saturday to help my daughter and her
family, and staying until until Feb 9th. I will have my laptop with me
and my cell phone. If anyone needs/wants to talk with me they can
either email me at irisgal@hotmail.com or call/text
me on my cell phone at (801) 644-7172.
Susan Boyce
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:33:41 -0700
> From: geraldcsnyder@gmail.com
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Wiki and Irisregister
>
> gary white wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I believe that when the AIS BOD approved the Wiki, implicit
in that
> > approval was the right to use descriptions from the
Registrations and
> > Introductions.
> >
>
> I don't believe that the board as a whole understood that.
>
> When the Iris Register was proposed, discussed,, and approved,
> protecting the intellectual property was a major concern. Use of
data
> from the most recent R & I was not permitted, pending
understanding of
> how sales of the printed R & I would be affected (not to make
money,
> just trying to avoid having a huge unsold inventory). On the other
hand,
> when the wiki was proposed, discussed, and approved the subject
was not
> even mentioned. To me that is an indication that it was not being
> thought of.
> > ....
> >
> > I don't believe a motion is needed. If we go through the
process of a
> > motion approving the use of R&I information for the Wiki,
doesn't that
> > then mean that we will also need motions for EVERY other use
of this
> > information.
> >
>
> We needed a motion to create the wiki. I am hoping to clarify what
that
> motion meant.
>
> The other activities you mention may or may not have been created
by
> board action, but a detailing of what is considered "proper use"
of the
> information may be in order. If one already exists, I feel sure it
> predates the internet age.
>
> Of course, if the board feels that wiki use of the data is okay
without
> further action, that is fine.Such a consensus would be ideal. I am
not
> in favor of roadblocks.
>
> I really wish this discussion had occurred when the wiki was being
proposed.
>
> And I must say that I appreciate the positive quality of your
email, Gary.
>
>
> Gerry
>
>
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