I agree with Howie that it is problematic at this stage to change directions. I think that time is too short to actually carry it off, and not get it confused with the 2021 voting. Contacting all the judges, and making sure that they know that they have to vote the 2020 ballot could be done in News and Notes, and Bonnie could get the word out via the JT chairs, but I am sure that some would miss out. Missing the vote for one year will not disqualify a judge, but missing two years does.
I also heard (or mis-heard) at the Board meeting that Jerry would only have to lop off the top half of the ballot that was already in the works for 2021. This is not correct, as he will have to go through and remove all the 2019 AMs, and leave the 2018 AMs for the 2020 ballot. Keeping the original plan of voting in 2021 does give irises that are eligible for medals more competition, as both 2019 and 2018 AMs will be added in the same year. I can see why the hybridizers would object to this.
Howie is correct that not voting in 2020 will make the medal voting have fewer candidates in 2022. However, since iris stay on the list for 3 years, unless they win, there should still be enough to consider for most medals.
I would like to point out that hybridizers were asked for input on this issue, and as I recall Paul Black and Riley Probst were the only ones who made the effort, and we gave careful consideration to their remarks in making our decision. Where were these 20 hybridizers then?
I am not sure how I will vote, but I wanted to say a few things now, to get the discussion done in a timely manner, so we can all have the chance to watch the presidential debate if we so choose.
I have a couple of concerns.
First, we made the decision to suspend the ballot at a time of great uncertainty and with the concern for the safety of our judges. We then revisited our decision and confirmed what we originally voted for.
Now we are looking at revisiting at least part of the decision again.
I see a couple of problems with the proposal to vote on just the medals.
First, we need to contact all our judges and be sure they all vote. I think if we require a judge to vote on the full ballot, we would have to require them to vote on the mini ballot.
Second, voting on just the medals would reduce the number of candidates for medals for 2022 (2021 would have candidates that won AM’s in 2019 added) as no AM’s would be voted on in 2020.
This would not be an issue with classes such as TB’s where there would be plenty of candidates. However, others, such as the Mohr and White medals that the Aril Society are responsible for have limited candidates and thus may not have enough eligible for medals in 2022. Its possible other classes of iris could suffer the same problem.
Third, a decision to have a mini ballot voted on at the October Board meeting would mean voting over the holidays, which I’m not sure is a good idea.
My first instinct is to stand by the decision we made and the plans we have for the ballots for 2021 forward and not vote this year. However, if we do decide to have a ballot this year, I think it needs to be the AM’s and medals for the reasons I mentioned above.
I’m uncertain at this point how I actually will vote.
Howie Dash
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The Presedential debate is at 6 pm PDT, 9 EDT. I, for one, want to see that. I hope we can keep the meeting to 45-50 mins.
If any ideas beyond Wednesday’s meeting can be shared before then, I think that would be helpful in keeping the meeting concise.
At this point I support an ballot for major awards this fall if a time schedule allows.
Neil
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This is a single-topic Board meeting. We will be discussing the 2020/2021 awards only.
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Hi Everyone:This will be a continuation of the discussion of the hybridizer's manifesto.
If you need a copy of the manifesto, I think Michelle has it and I have it.
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