Re: Motion for reinstatement of Photo Coordinator


I agree with Terry and Dennis: We're talking about an exponentially expanding field (photography and all the various the ways it's done). Fluidity and flexibility is needed in every aspect of our attempts to serve and to communicate with our members and the general public. General ground rules and "chain of accounting" -- yes. Severely restrictive, finely definitive methods and mechanisms -- no.
   Jeanne
On Oct 17, 2009, at 5:39 AM, R. Dennis Hager wrote:

I agree with John and Terry.

To quote Jeff Tobe,  "When the rules are written, creativity stops."

When the position would benefit from creative thinking, additional constraints will stop it. Some of the best magazine photography I have seen is outside the box of most photographers. The job description should focus on what the person does and who they answer to--not on how they do it.

Dennis Hager


----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
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Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion for reinstatement of Photo Coordinator


I would agree with John.
The photo coordinator thing seems to be expanding like topsy. With the
different functions there would be a need for different criteria.
Yup, keep it loose.
Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner- aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of John I Jones
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:35 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion for reinstatement of Photo Coordinator

I don't think the digital characteristics should be included in the
job position. There are likely to be many and various requirements
for the digital photographs over time and  in my opinion It should be
up to the Coordinator and the person requesting the photo to
determine what is needed. We would not want to have to revise the job
description every time there is a new requirement.

I suppose you could specify a resolution higher than anything you
might need it for, but then you would be requiring everyone to take
and save massive files suitable for poster size prints.

As time goes by Imaging and processing changes, and the coordinator
will need to keep up. Perhaps another less formal document on
procedures would be better.

Maybe guidelines for various typical uses (website, bulletin inside
photos, bulletin cover pictures, etc.) on the web site would be
appropriate.

Just my $.02

John
On Oct 16, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Jill Bonino wrote:

I would like to see a job description passed along with the motion
to formalize the Photograph Coord position...I think this would be
good whenever we add a new position to the Board/Committee family
so that we get in the habit of documenting each position.

This position description would include the minimum resolution
required for photos, whether digital pics are the only ones
acceptable, and who this position reports to.

Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Oct 16, 2009 5:08 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion for reinstatement of Photo
Coordinator

Terry is correct that there will be a need for high resolution
photos. In fact
we have that need right now if we expect to have Iris pictured on
the cover of
any national magazine. Of course this hasn't happened recently,
perhaps
because an outsider would not know about the wonders of Rita.
Having an
organized process, such as I suggested, that would go into the job
description, ensures a bit of disaster planning. If you have a
system set up
and functioning,(perhaps promoted), it could stimulate its use by
garden
writers. We might see more interest in writng about Irises. If the
photographs
were cataloged well it we might be able to generate copyright fees
for AIS or
the photographer, depending on how it was going to be used.
Currently we are
dependent on a very small group of people who may not be thinking
in terms of
a cover shot. A photographic coordinator could reach out to
several good
photographers, at a convention for example, and get more people
involved.
Involving members is important to our health as an organization.
Discs are
easy to copy. If there is a concern that something may go into the
library and
never be seen again, it would not be too hard to make copies that
go directly
to the slide program chair, the wiki chair, the bulletin editor as
part of a
backup.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 2:03:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion for reinstatement of Photo
Coordinator

Hi All
I'm a little surprised at the need to "formalize" this situation.
Right now,
Rita Gormley is our "go to person".
Comments? One criterion for someone to go on the "list of
photographers"
will be the size of camera they will be using. One option to be
discussed at
the fall meeting will be change in size of the bulletin to 8 1/2"
x 11".
Coming up with a cover photo that big will require very high
resolution
images. Of course, inside images are not as critical. I will try
to come up
with a minimum size camera. I will observe that good cameras are
getting
better and cheaper as time goes by.
I try to shoot every flower as if it was going to be the bulletin
cover.
There is a flattering angle and a story to tell with every picture.
We are in the business of selling "IRISES".
Terry

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