Re: [AISdiscuss] Handbook Revision

[MORRISJE1@aol.com]

In a message dated 10/5/2006 3:43:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
CEMahan@aol.com writes:


I  am  quite open to point scale GUIDELINES for blue, red, white, but I  do  
not
think that we should make these   REQUIREMENTS.



You asked for comments, Roy. I find it difficult  to imagine how a point  
scale for blue, red and white ribbons is  going to improve anything. It takes 
 long 
enough to judge a show  now...often cutting into viewing time for the  
public. 
I would not  ever want to be on a judges panel that was point judging  
exhibition  entries for various ribbons. And I seriously doubt if anyone else 
 would.  
After all, we are judging horticultural excellence not the merits of  the  
iris. Why make this time-consuming task even more complex?   Count me  
against this 
idea. Clarence




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All,
 
I agree with the setting of guidelines for Blue, Red and  White Ribbons.  I 
would never propose point scoring all varieties in a show  as you would never 
finish.  However, I believe strongly that a Blue Ribbon  winner should be a 90 
point plus scorer to receive that level of ribbon.   We have all heard and 
seen horror stories.  My biggest gripe as a Judge is  when other judges want to 
award a blue ribbon to something grown way out of  class or cut too short for 
its class.  I saw a show on the east coast one  time where blue ribbons were 
awarded to TBs that were cut to less than 15  inches.  That is patently wrong.  
I believe point scales would be  helpful to alleviate this type of crappy 
judging.
 
I still believe that a partially open bloom should be considered as an open  
bloom and to take off points for form.  It has never been a problem for me  
explaining this to exhibitors or students in Judges' Training.
 
Jim M.

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