I agree with Cheryl, Paul and Susan. We do not have a commitment for 1/2 of
the proposed order. Further, the current motion does not have a price for
overseas/international shipment/orders. Without this item, the AIS Storefront
would be forced to honor the price as outlined in the motion and AIS would have
to foot the bill for the additional postage. As I pointed out earlier, the cost
of international postage is equal or greater than the proposed price of the
binder. Another example of an item without an international price is the
Handbook for Judges and Show Officials. Our price is $15.00. Just
recently we mailed one copy to Australia - shipping cost
$15.45. Not good business practice in my mind.
My recommendation is do the survey of the affiliates and at Madison. If
possible, have a sample available at Madison. It can be placed at the AIS
Storefront sales table for viewing. For the survey of the affiliates, have a
picture of the proposed binder with a description and prices. This can be sent
out as an attachment to an e-mail.
John Ludi
AIS Storefront
From what I have read we have a committment for approximately 70 binders
which is not even close to breaking even. I seriously doubt that we
would sell the 40+ at the convention, since most of our sales are to AIS
Board and Committee Chairs, so spending this money prematurely seems like a
very risky position. Add to that the cost of mailing the unsold batch
from Madison to Oregon would add to the cost. Let's just get smart and
revisit this option after doing a thorough survey of the affiliates. At
that time we would have a better idea of the numbers that would sell so
that we could take advantage of a larger order, if
warrented. Cheryl > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:31:42
-0400 > From: robertpries@embarqmail.com > To:
aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding
purchase of Magazine Binders > > I agree with John that if we
decide to do this then we could have a partial shipment to Madison. Also Rita
has agreed to pick up those that are not sold. I do not know whether I
mentioned it before but they ship boxed binders in larger boxes of 18 and
unboxed binders in bozes of 36. a Box of unboxed binders might be best to ship
to the convention. So far I believe I counted at least 47 binders that would
be ordered from people on this list. If the affiliates were offered this
option from the affiliates e-list I would expect taking pre orders until the
end of April would allow the crtical number to be presold that would make this
a cost free venture for AIS. If we have inventory left it would be cost free
and could sell later at a profit. > > ----- Original Message
----- > From: "kay ludi" <kludi@juno.com> > To:
aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:06:24 PM GMT
-05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding
purchase of Magazine Binders > > Hi again, > We are back
home. We need to include a price for international/overseas >
orders. > The following are taken from the USPS International mailing
price list > (First Class Postage) for a 32 oz package. > New
Zealand $16.99 > Netherlands, Great Briton, Australia, France, Italy
$17.64 > Canada $8.93 (AIS Region 16 but at the Post Office-an >
international country for postage). > > What is the total number
for commitments for purchase at this time? Of > the total number, how
many would want delivery at Madison. Looking at > logistics, I would
encourage a partial shipment to Madison and the bulk > to Oregon. Since
the Ludi's are flying this time, all AIS Storefront > items will be
shipped to Madison; any not sold items will be shipped back > to Oregon.
> John & Kay Ludi > AIS Storefront > > On Thu,
18 Mar 2010 11:20:39 -0700 "William Plotner" >
<gardens@molalla.net> writes: > > Postage on a package from 1
to 2 pounds is as follows: > > > > Parcel Post $4.90 to
$8.09 depending on the zone. > > Priority Mail $5.00 to $9.55
depending on the zone > > > > Will > > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert
Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com> > > To:
<aisdiscuss@aisboard.org> > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010
10:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of
Magazine > > Binders > > > > > > >I
have a call in to the binder company but the sales person is out > >
at the > > >moment. The receptionist gave me this information.
Binders shipped > > in bulk > > >are in boxes of 36 and
that box weighes 38 pounds. Binders shipped > > > >
>prepackaged are shipped in boxes of 16 and that box weighes 25 >
> pounds. I > > >would assume that a box of one unit would
weigh approximately 1.5 > > pounds. > > >Will Plotner
or John Ludi could probably give us an idea of what > > postage
> > >might average on such a unit box. Remember it would be
somewhat > > over 8 and > > >a half by eleven. >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >
From: "Jill Bonino" <aistreas@earthlink.net> > > > To:
aisdiscuss@aisboard.org, aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > > > Sent:
Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:45:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > >
Eastern > > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase
of Magazine > > Binders > > > > > > If we do
this, I agree we should have them in Madison for people > > to take
> > > home themselves. > > > > > > At
$7.05 per binder cost (this includes the $.85 each for the > >
shipping box > > > and the $150 set up), we could give people at
the Convention a > > Special > > > Price of say $9.00.
This should cover shipping cost to Madison > > for say > >
> 100 of them?? And then the regular price shipped from the > >
Storefront could > > > be $10. That gives us $2.95 excess to
cover shipping expenses on > > each > > > one. We will
not make a lot of money on these, but I think it is > > a >
> > goodwill gesture since we chose to change the Bulletin size. Total
> > > > > upfront cost would be in the neighborhood of
$1400-$1500 for the > > initial > > > 200
order. > > > > > > Bob, if these are popular, and I
believe they will, could we get a > > better > > >
discount on say 500 of them when we order the second shipment?? > >
> > > > Perhaps when we order the 200 we could have half
delivered to the > > Maidson > > > Hotel and the other
half sent to the Storefront? Could Madison > > handle > >
> storing them until May? > > > > > > Jill >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >
>>From: kay ludi <kludi@juno.com> > > >>Sent: Mar
18, 2010 10:04 AM > > >>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org >
> >>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine
> > Binders > > >> > > >>Other factors
to consider for pricing the binder. What is it going > > to >
> >>cost to mail/ship a binder to the customer? (At this time without
> > knowing > > >>the size or weight we would hazard
to guess. It would not be > > >>classified/shipped as Media
Mail (Book rate). What are the > > shipping > >
>>charges to Madison or the AIS Storefront? We do not think we >
> should ship > > >>200 to Madison and turn around and have
to pay for shipping back > > to the > > >>AIS
Storefront. We are talking about a bulky item for shipping. If > >
the > > >>Board decides to purchase the binder, we highly
recommend that we > > also > > >>purchase the box for
shipping. That is going to be a cost whether > > we > >
>>purchase the box with the binder or if we at the AIS Storefront
> > have to > > >>purchase a box from another
source. > > >> According to our figures, 200 binders w/boxes
plus the dye cost, > > >>purchase price is $7.05 per binder. To
this we need to add all > > the > >
>>shipping/mailing cost. > > >>John & Kay
Ludi > > >>AIS Storefront > > >> > >
>>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:19:35 -0700 "William Plotner" > >
>><gardens@molalla.net> writes: > > >>> Just as
a note....Most of these binders sell for from $12.00 to > >
>>> $15.00 each > > >>> and the cost should be
covered fairly quickly (with the first > > 120 > >
>>> sold) > > >>> after that there would be profit
(aprox $1000.00 on the first > > 200) > > >>> and
more > > >>> profit after that as the dyes will only be
charged the first > > time. > > >>> > >
>>> Will > > >>> > > >>> >
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>
From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com> > >
>>> To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org> > > >>>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:03 AM > > >>> Subject: Re:
[AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine > > >>>
Binders > > >>> > > >>> > >
>>> > > > >>> > Magazine Binders > >
>>> > > > >>> > I surfed the internet for
magazine binders and all the > > publishers > >
>>> I found > > >>> > offering these get them
from the same source and are very > > >>> satisfied
with > > >>> > that company. That firm, Rogers Looseleaf
provided me with a > > bid > > >>> for 200 >
> >>> > binders. They would be dark blue with gold printing
saying: > > The > > >>> American > >
>>> > Iris Society, Quarterly Bulletin and the insignia of AIS
> > printed > > >>> on the > >
>>> > spine. There would be a one time charge of $150 for creating
> > the > > >>> dye. Each > >
>>> > unit cost would be $5.45. If we desire cardboard shipping
> > boxes > > >>> > individually packed they
are an additional $0.85 each > > >>> > > >
>>> > It is true that we have a budget crunch. But we have also
put > > into > > >>> place > >
>>> > measures to compensate. We will only increase membership
by > > >>> providing the > > >>> >
services expected of a 21st century organization. Efforts are > >
>>> being made > > >>> > to get us there. It is
true this is a minor issue. But then > > again > >
>>> if we > > >>> > can not offer services like
this for fear of loosing money > > than > > >>>
what > > >>> > products can we sell that can bring in
money? I believe this > > is a > > >>>
modest > > >>> > investment in inventory and could
potential make a few bucks. > > >>> > > >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> >
From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net> > > >>>
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > > >>> > Sent:
Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:34:29 PM GMT -05:00 > >
US/Canada > > >>> Eastern > > >>> >
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of > >
Magazine > > >>> Binders > > >>>
> > > >>> > Ok, would somebody stick a dollar sign on
these things? > > >>> > Are there options? > >
>>> > I'm sure that quantity plays a role. > >
>>> > Yes, we have to charge enough to get us out of trouble
> > quickly. > > >>> > Terry > >
>>> > > > >>> > -----Original
Message----- > > >>> > From:
owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > > >>>
[mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org] > > >>> > On
Behalf Of Michelle Snyder > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday,
March 17, 2010 4:03 PM > > >>> > To:
aisdiscuss@aisboard.org > > >>> > Subject: [AISdiscuss]
Motion regarding purchase of Magazine > > >>>
Binders > > >>> > > > >>> > Bob
Pries moved and Rita Gormley seconded the below motion. > >
As > > >>> such, it > > >>> > is now
open for discussion. > > >>> > > > >>>
> "That AIS offer Magazine binders for the bulletin." > >
>>> > > > >>> > Michelle Snyder > >
>>> > AIS Secretary > > >>> > > >
>>> > > > >>> > >
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