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 Instead of wasting time it could simply be 
amended to include the first purchase. 
  
Roberts rules of order  
  
Will 
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  Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:49 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS Bulletin 
  Binders 
  
  Hello all,
  In response to Jill's email we are currently not set up to handle 
  "calling the question" on any motion via email. I would suggest that we bring 
  this matter up for discussion at the next board meeting. Additionally, we 
  could also address the issue of only allowing one motion to be considered at a 
  time.    The current motion presented by Bob Pries, and seconded by 
  Rita Gormley, states: "That AIS offer Magazine binders for the 
  bulletin."    It is scheduled to go to vote on March 24. If 
  Bob Pries wishes to withdraw his motion he can second Jill's proposed motion 
  which states:    "That the AIS purchase an initial order of 
  200 Binders according to the bid obtained by Bob Pries from Rogers Looseleaf ( 
  $5.45 each including a $150 setup charge plus $.85 each for a shipping box). 
  Storefront to sell the binders for $12 including 
  shipping."    I have specifically mentioned Bob Pries since he 
  would have to withdraw his original motion before Jill's can be entertained. 
  He could immediately second Jill's motion at that time. If the new motion is 
  seconded the "clock" will start anew. If we let the original motion go to vote 
  than Jill's motion can not be presented until March 31. 
  
  Michelle
  On 3/20/2010 10:43 AM, Jill Bonino 
  wrote: 
  
    
    
    I don't know if this has already been done , but we've discussed it for 
    awhile... 
      
    If there is a motion on the floor to buy the AIs Bulletin Binders, I call 
    the question. 
      
    If there is NOT a motion about this I make the following motion, 
      
    That the AIS purchase an initial order of 200 Binders according to the 
    bid obtained by Bob Pries from Rogers Looseleaf ( $5.45 each including a 
    $150 setup charge plus $.85 each for a shipping box).  Storefront to 
    sell the binders for $12 including shipping.     
      
    Jill Bonino
 
 
  
    -----Original 
      Message-----  From: Robert Pries  Sent: 
      Mar 18, 2010 1:34 PM  To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org 
       Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Members discounts. 
  
      
      
      
      The Daylily Society offers a coupon with a membership, new, renewal, or 
      upgrade. The coupon is honred by nuseries that wish to do so and on the 
      nurseries own terms. This gives the members a discount but 
      also drives business to those that honor it. It means the member can 
      shop to see what they think is the best value and the nursery can make 
      sure an order placed does not loose them money and perhaps gains extra 
      business. I have been suggesting to several people that we really could 
      use an Iris nurserymans forum that could make suggestions to the board 
      that could help with programs that are good for the nursery and also good 
      for AIS. An additional thought was that considering the amount of fraud on 
      the internet that if this cosortium of nurseryman could agree to a code of 
      ethics that AIS could promote those Iris growers that subscribed to the 
      code. 
       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net> To: 
      aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Sent: 
      Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:22:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
      Eastern Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
      Binders
 
  
      
      
      I like the idea 
      of âAIS member discountâ. From the storefront? 
      Iâve been trying 
      to figure out how to do an âAIS member discountâ thru my catalog but it 
      means checking each membership? 
      Thereâs got to be 
      an easier way. 
      Terry 
        
      -----Original 
      Message----- From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org 
      [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org] 
      On Behalf Of Robert 
      Pries Sent: Thursday, 
      March 18, 2010 11:17 AM To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion 
      regarding purchase of Magazine Binders 
        
      
      All good questions, 
      hope to have some answers soon. I do like the idea of preorders. I suspect 
      the first hundred could go quickly but I am just guessing that the last 
      might be around for awhile. Since the Market would indicate a value of 
      these to be $20 each I would suggest pricing them at that, and if we 
      wanted to give a discount for preorders, or for members, or for the first 
      year, whatever, we could do that. But establishing what they are normally 
      worth is important. I would suggest that if we have a reasonable 
      price we could pay for a large part of the purchase immediately. 
      Establishing a price is tricky because you want it fair but still making 
      some profit.  
       ----- Original Message 
      ----- From: "gary white" <in2iris@yahoo.com> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Sent: 
      Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:10:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
      Eastern Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
      Binders 
      
        
        
          
            
            I'm all in favor of these binders, and 
            thanks to Bob for obtaining the info and a 
            bid.  
            
            I do think we need to have these in the 
            Storefront before the convention.  
            
            
            
            
            1) Is there a shipping charge from this 
            company to the AIS Storefront, or is shipping 
            included?  
            
            2) Is there an estimate of mailing charge 
            from the Storefront to individual 
            purchasers?   
            
            3) Does the Storefront have sufficient 
            storage space for 200 binders initially?  
            
            4) Would it be possible to take pre-orders 
            once we have a firm price that includes mailing, so that part 
            of the investment in the first shipment of binders is quickly 
            replaced, and number kept on hand reduced?  Or is 
            that more trouble than its worth?  
            
            
            
               From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com> Subject: 
              Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
              Binders To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Date: 
              Thursday, March 18, 2010, 8:03 AM 
              
               Magazine Binders
  I surfed the 
              internet for magazine binders and all the publishers I found 
              offering these get them from the same source and are very 
              satisfied with that company. That firm, Rogers Looseleaf  
              provided me with a bid for 200 binders. They would be dark blue 
              with gold printing saying: The American Iris Society, Quarterly 
              Bulletin and the insignia of AIS printed on the spine. There would 
              be a one time charge of $150 for creating the dye. Each unit cost 
              would be $5.45. If we desire cardboard shipping boxes individually 
              packed they are an additional $0.85 each 
  It is true that 
              we have a budget crunch. But we have also put into place measures 
              to compensate. We will only increase membership by providing the 
              services expected of a 21st century organization. Efforts are 
              being made to get us there. It is true this is a minor issue. But 
              then again if we can not offer services like this for fear of 
              loosing money than what products can we sell that can bring in 
              money? I believe this is a modest investment in inventory and 
              could potential make a few bucks.
  ----- Original Message 
              ----- From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Sent: 
              Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:34:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
              Eastern Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
              Magazine Binders
  Ok, would somebody stick a dollar sign on 
              these things? Are there options? I'm sure that quantity 
              plays a role. Yes, we have to charge enough to get us out of 
              trouble quickly. Terry
  -----Original 
              Message----- From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org 
              [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org] On 
              Behalf Of Michelle Snyder Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:03 
              PM To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org Subject: 
              [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
              Binders
  Bob Pries moved and Rita Gormley seconded the below 
              motion.  As such, it  is now open for 
              discussion.
  "That AIS offer Magazine binders for the 
              bulletin."
  Michelle Snyder AIS 
              Secretary
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