Re: AIS Website

["Janet Smith" <4f80107e1@rewrite.aisboard.org>]

1. There is a HUGE difference between the website and the wiki.  I
can find things on the website I can not successfully search on the
wiki and find anything.

2. There is a HUGE difference between someone who knows computers and
a GRAPHIC DESIGNER! ! !  You want STEAK (designer) or Hamburger
(computer literate).

I personally will take the graphic designer anytime, we get a good
product and look.

How short some memories are, recall what the website use to look
like????  Not that long ago! ! ! !  

AND who did you say the new electronic webmaster was????  I missed
the name.

Janet Smith
California


---- Original Message ----
From: 101p@rewrite.aisboard.org
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS Website
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:41:26 -0400 (EDT)

>As I said the people I know would do this for $600. They can do it.
>Actually I thonk they would do the entire website for $1,000. What
>are we paying now $2,000?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Jones" <100h@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:21:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS Website
>
>Well I am sorry, but your IT people are not graphic designers and
>frankly have no clue what all has to be done to the graphics to
>accommodate a longer menu list. The list code is custom designed to
>fit with our look and feel. The software used it up to date and from
>reputable companies.
>
>You are correct the websites that Andi referenced are very pretty. It
>is also true that they don't have anywhere as much information to
>present as we do. Navigation is a significant problem and we provided
>a reasonable solution that is accessible on the home page and is most
>cases does not require going to another page to find where something
>is.
>
>I never intended to "put my mark" on a website. I intended to present
>a website that reflected the style and needs of AIS, and despite one
>or two perennial detractors, did so in a manner that reflects the
>image the board wanted.
>
>If the board wants a redesign, I am all for it, but I do not have the
>time to undertake the effort to incorporate a new structure and
>revise all the information that we present today. I am sure we will
>hear how all the information should be on the wiki, but the wiki is
>not the AIS, has a look that could be best described as confounding,
>and has its own significant difficulties for anyone trying to search
>for something.
>
>If the board does not want to improve the current site with money
>from the ESC Restricted fund raised primarily by the Geek Dinner
>auctions, then that can be their decision. This effort would not
>affect the AIS General budget in any way.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>John
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>Registrar-Recorders, American Iris Society
>aisregistrar@irises.org
>
>John Jones, Chairman, Electronic Services Committee
>aiselectronicsvcs@irises.org
>
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>Fremont, CA 94536
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>
>On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:46 PM, "Robert Pries "
><101p@rewrite.aisboard.org> wrote:
>
>> I did some checking with some IT people. What John is proposing
>could be done
>> at half the cost. And it actually could be done at the $60 I was
>suggesting if
>> the website was running on todaybs state of the art software. But
>the
>> website is outdated and making the changes suggested would actually
>cost about
>> $600 keeping it running on the same static system.
>> 
>> I agree with Andi; the websites he displayed are GREAT!!!! Ours
>should look
>> that good. But I do not think we have the personnel capable of
>making those
>> changes. I do believe we should have the new electronics chair
>tackle this
>> problem and not someone who is leaving. B  New people like to place
>their own
>> mark on something and certainly there is a need.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "Ron Killingsworth" <102w@rewrite.aisboard.org>
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:07:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: [AISdiscuss] AIS Website
>> 
>> I agree with Bob Pries that the price seems high to me - but admit
>I am no web
>> site guru.B  Seems we should have some computer experts within our
>> organization who could make small changes to the web site -- ok,
>this may not
>> be a small change -- what do I know? - but again I think that's a
>lot of money
>> honey.
>> 
>> Second, I agree with Andi that we should not rush into making
>changes for
>> cosmetic reasons.B  Have there been complaints about the menus?B 
>Would Bob
>> Pries ideas be better?
>> I looked at all the web sites Andi suggested and wow, we are really
>have a
>> model A ford website compared to those web sites.B  I can think of
>many great
>> pictures that could fill the beginning page of the web site, like
>the web
>> sites Andi suggested looking over, and yet our site has such a
>bland first
>> page.
>> 
>> Third, I agree with Jim Morris that the new "electronic services
>chairperson"
>> should be involved in this discussion.B  The question is:B  Are the
>changes
>> worth the money?
>> 
>> So, I guess I am saying I feel this needs more study and that if we
>are going
>> to update the front page, maybe we could really update it to
>include a better
>> visual picture of who we are. And, to me it makes no difference
>where the
>> money is coming from, out of the left pocket or out of the right
>pocket, we
>> are still looking at a lot of money at a time when the budget seems
>to be
>> running over.
>> 
>> Ron Killingsworth, Director
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/3/2014 13:56, Michelle Snyder wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> Since I am traveling until late Thursday, I am forwarding the made
>and
>> seconded motion for official discussion via my cell phone.
>> Michelle
>> 
>> Sent using CloudMagic
>> 
>> --------Forwarded message--------
>> From: Susan Boyce < 100T@rewrite.aisboard.org >
>> Date: Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:30 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: RE: [AISdiscuss] AIS Website
>> To: aisdiscuss < aisdiscuss@aisboard.org >
>> 
>> 
>> <blockquote>
>> 
>> I second the motion.
>> Susan Boyce
>> 
>>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>>> Subject: [AISdiscuss] AIS Website
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:00:11 -0700
>>> From: c95039e11@rewrite.aisboard.org
>>> 
>>> I move "That the AIS Board approve an upgrade to the AIS Website
>to
>> increase
>>> the number of menu items available on the left side area of the
>webpage.
>> Such
>>> upgrade not to exceed a cost of $1200.00, funding is to come from
>the
>>> Electronic Services Restricted Fund.B  Such upgrade to be managed
>by the
>>> Electronic Services Chair on behalf of AIS."
>>> Cheryl Deaton
>>> 
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