Re: Motion to purchase new lap top for Electronic Services Chair

[andi rivarola <andinsky@gmail.com>]

Cheryl, not sure why you're bringing up whether being a volunteer is a
choice or not. Not sure I understand your point.

In any case this issue moves forward and  to bring more information about
the issue of *proving equipment to key volunteers*, I'd like to provide my
experience on this.
Providing key volunteers with assistance is not unique to AIS.
I work for a non-profit and we provide equipment (including computers,
printers, walkie-talkies and cell phones) for key volunteers, on a
permanent basis.
Also, at my church we provide equipment to key volunteers too.
It's a way to being more responsible with finances, as a *full time employee
* would cost the organization much more than *a full time volunteer *does,
even after including the equipment cost.

Hope this helps.

Andi

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:38 AM, cheryl deaton <region15kids@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Andi,
> As I said, we are volunteers and the amount of time spent on volunteer
> activities is our choice, or we would not volunteer.  I spend more than 3
> hours daily for the various AIS jobs I do, and if I didn't think I could
> spare
> the time, I would step back and resign from one of those jobs.  It is MY
> choice, just as it is everyone's choice, whether it is AIS, church, scouts
> or
> school.
>
> John has an AIS computer for his paid position as AIS Registrar/Recorder.
>  He
> has been using his personal laptop for all the Board meeting motions and
> programs presented at the conventions for years, in addition to using it
> for
> the website, Iris Register and other activities.  He 'volunteered' it.  Now
> that it has bit the dust, he has made a request that the AIS Electronic
> Services fund the purchase of a laptop for use by the Electronic Services
> Chair to accomplish all that has been done previously on a volunteer
> laptop.
> If it is not purchased, then someone would need to volunteer a laptop at
> all
> the board meetings, etc.  I am sure Bob spends more hours for AIS than we
> know.  Maybe it is time someone makes a motion to purchase an AIS laptop
> for
> the WIKI.
> Cheryl
>
> > From: andinsky@gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:37:08 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to purchase new lap top for Electronic
> Services Chair
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> >
> > Cheryl, also, in case you didn't know, Bob spends a good eight-hours a
> day
> > (probably more; he can let you know more of all he does) on his computer
> > working on AIS stuff. The Encyclopedia takes most of his time, I believe,
> > but also in other committees. So, yes, we all use our equipment, but we
> > should consider those in positions serving full-time a priority and
> somehow
> > help them and if not purchase a computer when they are not able to
> purchase
> > one themselves. So, it's not the same case as you and me.
> >
> > In John's case, he is working for AIS, so to me the equipment goes
> without
> > saying, but for those who do not work for AIS I guess what I am asking is
> > at what point can someone be helped with equipment that helps them
> fulfill
> > their important role? It's a good separate topic of discussion, don't you
> > think?
> >
> > Andi Rivarola
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:32 AM, cheryl deaton
> <region15kids@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Bob,
> > > This is the first I have heard that there were problems with any
> equipment
> > > during the convention. Would have been nice to know at the time. All of
> > > us,
> > > as VOLUNTEERS, use our own personal computers. I myself just bought a
> new
> > > computer in addition to a laptop and am in the process of learning the
> new
> > > programs. The majority of my use is personal, although I do spend
> almost
> > > 50%
> > > of my time online responding to emails, etc. It is just a part of my
> > > volunteer committment.
> > >
> > > John has used his laptop for our board meetings and presentations for
> > > various
> > > sections. Purchasing a new laptop for the Electronic Services Chair is
> > > something I completely support. I just wish John would give lessons - I
> > > could
> > > really use them!
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:27:00 -0400
> > > > From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> > > > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion to purchase new lap top for
> Electronic
> > > Services Chair
> > > >
> > > > While i support this in theory would also like to note that there are
> > > several of us within AIS who use computers daily answering questions
> and
> > > working on the AIS websites, facebook, The blog, Slides chair, etc.
> Right
> > > now
> > > I am in the process of buying a new computer and software because the
> old
> > > one
> > > just is not working well enough. Everything I have is out of date, and
> I
> > > have
> > > been making do without a laptop for a couple of years now since mine
> died.
> > > I
> > > realize that as far as i know there has been no or little charge for
> the
> > > hosting of the Iris Encyclopedia which I appreciate greatly. But in
> trying
> > > to
> > > figure out what the real costs could be I have seen estimates as high
> as
> > > $10,000 a year. It makes me nervous, not having better data on these
> > > things. I
> > > believe there should be sum sort of depreciation figured on AIS
> Equipment.
> > > The
> > > projector at convention was absolutely terribly. I guess I needed to
> bring
> > > my
> > > own. But yellow Irises were Green. I have e-mailed changes for the
> website
> > > !
> > > > but have never seen them changed. Do we need to hire more people? I
> > > dislike
> > > the idea of asking for equipment for myself, but have to admit I can
> not
> > > afford all the programs and equipment that would make my jobs easier. I
> am
> > > just expressing my frustrations because it does not seem to me that we
> > > have a
> > > lot of money in Electronics considering all the needs. I do not know
> what
> > > the
> > > answer is.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > FYI--Balance in the Restricted Electronic Services Fund as of March
> 31,
> > > 2012
> > > is $15,580.51. This does not include the $2,000+ that the Geek Auction
> > > brought
> > > in at the 2012 convention.
> > > >
> > > > John, being the electronics guru that he is, knows what he needs.
> There
> > > is
> > > plenty of money in the Fund. As Treasurer I support this 100%.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Michelle Snyder <AISSecretary@irises.org>
> > > > >Sent: Jun 5, 2012 10:14 PM
> > > > >To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > > >Subject: [AISdiscuss] Motion to purchase new lap top for Electronic
> > > Services Chair
> > > > >
> > > > >John Jones moved and Dana Brown seconded the below motion. As such
> it
> > > > >is now out for discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > >"That the Electronic Services Chair be authorized to spend up to
> > > $1500.00
> > > to purchase a new laptop system and software as the property of the AIS
> for
> > > use by the Electronic Services Chair. Said Funds to be allocated from
> the
> > > Electronic Services Restricted fund."
> > > > >
> > > > >Michelle Snyder
> > > > >AIS Secretary
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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