RE: Modified motion to use AIS confer for the making and seconding of motions

["Brad" <zebrairis1@aol.com>]

Roy,

Your request is certainly reasonable so my motion is withdrawn as soon as
Bob withdraws his second.  I do request that the Standing Rules concerning
electronic voting and conducting of AIS business be publish in their
entirety on AISdiscuss so they may be carefully reviewed by anyone who
wishes to do so.

All the best,
Brad Kasperek

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of E. R. Epperson
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:14 PM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss]Modified motion to use AIS confer for the making
and seconding of motions

Brad,

 

I agree that the two Standing Rules concerning Electronic voting need to be
reviewed and presented for discussion/adoption at the fall BOD meeting in
Las Vegas.  I do not believe that an equitable solution can come without
full deliberative action at a convened meeting of the BOD.  Therefore, I
would request that you and Bob Pries rescind the motion and we not attempt
to take any formal action until the fall BOD meeting.

 

Roy

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:17 PM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss]Modified motion to use AIS confer for the making
and seconding of motions

 

Roy,

 

I need a little help with understanding the problem. Why can't Standing

Rules be modified by a motion?  I personally don't believe 7 days is enough

time since not everyone uses e-mail on a daily basis.

 

Item 5 is also poorly worded since it does not specify what happens to a

motion that hasn't received enough votes to make a quorum. Second, I know

perfectly well that not all votes I've seen on AISvote included a full copy

of the motion.

 

All the best,

Brad

 

-----Original Message-----

From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]

On Behalf Of E. R. Epperson

Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:58 PM

To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org

Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss]Modified motion to use AIS confer for the making

and seconding of motions

 

Dear Brad:

 

 

 

You will need to amend your original motion (seconded by Pries) in that the

Standing Motion noted below and fully in effect specifies the time period

for electronic discussion and the time period for electronic vote.

 

 

 

The Board of Directors at its spring meeting 2003 in Falls Church, VA (see

AIS Bulletin No. 330, July 2003, p. 83-84) passed a Standing Rule setting

out guidelines for electronic discussion and voting.

 

 

 

Item 2.  Any member of the Board who wishes to do shall present his/her

comments by electronic mail to each and every member of the Board.  Unless

otherwise specified by the AIS President, these comments must be transmitted

within seven (7) days of the initial electronic call for discussion and

input.

 

 

 

Item 5.  Each Board member shall copy the full text of the seconded motion

and vote YES or NO and submit that vote by electronic mail to each and every

member of the Board.  The vote shall be transmitted within 7 days unless

otherwise specified by the AIS President.

 

 

 

Roy

 

 

 

E. Roy Epperson

 

President, AIS

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]

On Behalf Of Brad

Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:46 PM

To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org

Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss]Modified motion to use AIS confer for the making

and seconding of motions

 

 

 

AIS Board Members,

 

 

 

I have modified my original un-seconded motion below as follows:

 

 

 

"I move that electronic motions may be made on either AISconfer or

 

AISdiscuss and after they are seconded they be placed on AISdiscuss if

 

necessary for 10 days prior to moving them to AISvote."

 

 

 

John's information changed my perspective on the use of AISdiscuss for

 

making motions, but I don't believe there is anything wrong about also using

 

AISconfer for motions. 

 

 

 

The second part of the motion deals with setting a defined period for

 

discussion of electronic motions. In the past the period of discussion has

 

varied from less than a week to several weeks and we would benefit from

 

establishing a set time period for discussion. In the past I've noted

 

comments against a defined time for discussion because it might keep the

 

President from addressing emergences quicky. I tend to discourage decisions

 

"made in hast" because their unintended consequences often take lots of time

 

to correct.  Besides, any actions the AIS Oficers might be forced to take

 

without full discussion can be "radified after the fact."

 

 

 

Well back to gardening.

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

Brad Kasperek

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]

 

On Behalf Of Brad

 

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:39 PM

 

To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org

 

Subject: [AISdiscuss] Motion to use AIS confer for the making and seconding

 

of motions

 

 

 

AIS Board Members,

 

 

 

I move that all electronic motions be made on AIS confer and after they are

 

seconded they be placed on AIS discuss for 10 days prior to moving them to

 

AISvote.

 

 

 

The current use of AISdiscuss to make motions is the opposite of the way we

 

conduct AIS Board business.  In Board meeting a voting member of the AIS

 

Board makes a motion and another Board member seconds it before opening the

 

motion up to public discussion.

 

 

 

The electronic process should be the same process as the way we conduct

 

business in our Board meetings.  AISconfer is the correct discussion level

 

for the making and seconding of motions.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Brad Kasperek

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]

 

On Behalf Of PlankMail@aol.com

 

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:12 PM

 

To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org

 

Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS Treasury Update July 2008

 

 

 

Thank you so much, Jill, for providing info that will keep AIS Board members

 

informed and reasonably comfortable about AIS finances during this "wobbly"

 

period.

 

     Cheers!

 

          Jeanne

 

In a message dated 7/13/08 11:23:31 AM, aistreas@earthlink.net writes:

 

 

 

 

 

> Hi All,

 

> 

 

> Just a quick note to let you know that with the current wobbles in the US

 

> banking system, all of the AIS investments are safe.

 

> 

 

> Many of you saw on the news that INDYMAC Bank, headquartered in Pasadena,

 

> CA, was closed by the Federal Reserve on Friday July 11, 2008. 

 

> 

 

> The AIS Treasury holds NO certificates of deposits or other bank accounts

 

> with INDYMAC.  In addition, all of the CDs that AIS money is invested in

 

are

 

> all under the $100,000 FDIC insurance limit. 

 

> 

 

> If you have any further questions, let me know...

 

> 

 

> Thanks,

 

> 

 

> Jill Bonino

 

> Treasurer

 

> 

 

> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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