RE: 2014 AIS Convention

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Subject: RE: 2014 AIS Convention
From: "Janet Smith" <ypauls@sti.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:39:41 -0800
AND I am sure my is waiting for me at my Post Office Box - when it
quites raining - 6 inches in days and counting - I will have it in my
hands too!

Janet Smith
California - rain YIPPIE!

---- Original Message ----
From: region15kids@hotmail.com
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:58:16 -0800

>HEY EVERYONE!  GOT MY PRINTED COPY OF THE BULLETIN SATURDAY!  NICE TO
>BE ABLE
>TO LOOK THROUGH THE PAGES AT ALL THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES.  NICE JOB
>KELLY!
>Cheryl
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:00:50 +0000
>> From: don.rude@comcast.net
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>>
>> I agree with you. Hard copy is always deserirable.
>> Don
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Janet Smith" <ypauls@sti.net>
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:07:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>>
>> Post office lack of care, volunteers who have a life and do their
>> best to get the article in on time but fail, trying to find
>> volunteers who will do an article, trying to find that needed photo
>=
>> a late bulletin.
>>
>> I am old school and want the hard copy in my hand, thumbing through
>> the pages. So it is slightly late, it does arrive. Take another
>look
>> at what changes there have been to the bulletin, more articles,
>> photos, conversations than we have had in a long time.
>>
>> You can't slap the editor for the mailing company -- the post
>office
>> and volunteers not doing getting in on time.
>>
>> Far as I am concerned, anyone out there who thinks they can do
>> better---November 2014 turn in your Resume now!
>>
>> My point of view having been there done that-
>>
>> Janet Smith
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
>> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:34:11 -0500 (EST)
>>
>> >I prefer print to computer screen but sadly times are changing and
>> >the post office seems to be declining. And yes the printer sorts
>by
>> >postal codes and does all the right things, but you can figure a
>good
>> >month of wait for bulk rate stuff. Sometimes one gets lucky and
>other
>> >times it takes forever. My local post Office shuts down between
>> >11:00am to 1:00pm for lunch. Everyone complains, the mayor, the
>> >buisinesses, everyone. How can people go to the post office on
>their
>> >Lunch break. They can not, but the Post Office does not care.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "don rude" <don.rude@comcast.net>
>> >To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:23:31 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >
>> >Problems with the mail almost always begin with the mailers. Are
>> >mailings sorted by zip codes?
>> >As a retired person I relish the arrival of paper copies of
>journals
>> >and magazines and resent having e-mail replace so many forms of
>human
>> >contact, even as it enriches life in some ways--such as these
>> >mailings.
>> >Don
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
>> >To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:40:00 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >
>> >One point: The AIS Bulletin is not late; It is already out and if
>one
>> >has e-membership you can view it online right now. How soon it
>gets
>> >through the postal service to print subscribers like myself is
>> >anybody's guess. I have been troubled for sometime about the
>> >communication system within AIS. E-mails and E-memberships offer
>some
>> >solutions. But too many of our member still are at the mercy of
>the
>> >mails.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "John W. Baker" <johnwbaker1@frontier.com>
>> >To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:24:13 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >
>> >Goof morning, Terry:
>> >Thank you for your words of wisdom regarding conventions.
>> >As a past president of our local club for a number of years, and
>> >chairman of
>> >the 2010 AIS Convention in Madison, I agree with what you say.
>> >We were happy to receive a large check from the Kansan City
>> >Convention
>> >committee prior to our convention, and we sent one in return to
>> >Canada for
>> >their convention. However, if every club that can afford it would
>> >make a
>> >contribution to the AIS for an insurance to cover the hotel (OUR
>> >BIGGEST
>> >DOWNFALL) it would help everyone hosting a convention. We all know
>in
>> >
>> >advance what the buses, food, convention bags and give-aways are
>> >going to
>> >cost, but the hotel always has to be the big question mark for any
>> >convention, due to the unknow attendance. We were absolutely sure
>> >that we
>> >were going to hit 500, but planned for only 300-400 which seemed
>> >positive.
>> >As for the iris sale, it was a salvation to uur club. We had
>several
>> >very
>> >large orders from around the country which amounted to a few
>thousand
>> >
>> >dollars, and made $14,000 on our three-day iris sale at Olbrich
>> >Botanical
>> >Gardens in Madison. This was our salvation, truly!
>> >I understand that the AIS Bulletin is going to be late again,
>forcing
>> >the
>> >California people to push the
>> >higher registration fees from March to April. This is a loss of
>money
>> >to
>> >those people. I have already gotten myself into trouble with Kelly
>> >Norris
>> >regarding my outspoken views on his job as editor, but I feel that
>> >the
>> >printing deadline is something that should never be overlooked.
>How
>> >would
>> >he like to receive his daily paper a couple weeks (or even a
>month)
>> >late?
>> >Enough said on that subject!
>> >Thanks for your words of wisdom, and for your many years of
>service
>> >to the
>> >AIS.
>> >John Baker
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
>> >To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:29 PM
>> >Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi "All"
>> >> The local committee does all of the negotiating with
>contractors,
>> >be they
>> >> hotels, buses, meals, whatever.
>> >> When all of that is added up, they should allow about a 10%
>> >contingency.
>> >> The local committee then sets the registration fee.
>> >> So far, so good. AIS advises but is not responsible. Thank you,
>> >Paul
>> >> Gossett!
>> >> The big unknown is ATTENDANCE ?!?!? and nobody can predict that
>if
>> >there
>> >> is
>> >> no history of iris conventions at a specific location.
>> >> On any committee, there will blatant optimists and blatant
>> >pessimists.
>> >> Being
>> >> "REALISTIC" is a crapshoot at any time and many circumstances
>are
>> >beyond
>> >> the
>> >> control of the local people. I hear that there is insurance
>against
>> >a
>> >> financial disaster but it is very expensive. It covers the hotel
>> >fees for
>> >> "under" attendance. It would be nice if the successful
>conventions
>> >could
>> >> donate some money to AIS as a backup fund so that AIS and the
>local
>> >
>> >> committee could be "self insured". (No idea where that money is
>> >going to
>> >> come from!)
>> >> Another big unknown is the distribution or sale of plants after
>the
>> >
>> >> conventions. Sometimes they can bail out a convention that is in
>a
>> >> precarious financial position.
>> >> Terry Aitken
>> >> Planning for the 2015 convention.
>> >> Conventions are for the dissemination of information and nobody
>> >owns that.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >[mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
>> >> On Behalf Of R. Dennis Hager
>> >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:53 AM
>> >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >>
>> >> There are underlying questions that need to be considered as a
>part
>> >of
>> >> this
>> >> question.
>> >>
>> >> Who OWNS the Convention?
>> >> How should the Convention be promoted?
>> >> Who owns the intellectual data that is generated at each
>> >convention?
>> >> Is that data used to promote and improve subsequent conventions?
>> >> What functions of the convention should be administered by the
>> >Host?
>> >> What functions of the convention should be administered by AIS?
>> >>
>> >> These questions are NOT about how things ARE done, but how they
>> >SHOULD be
>> >> done.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis Hager
>> >> Irisarian, Pharmacist, Restaurateur, Councilman, Former Mayor
>and
>> >General
>> >> Pain in the A....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Maureen
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:40 AM
>> >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
>> >>
>> >> Hi Paul,
>> >>
>> >> I think we all suspected that a discussion on AIS policy on
>> >conventions
>> >> was
>> >> going to happen sooner rather than later.
>> >>
>> >> I expect that the current ad hoc help at the back end should a
>club
>> >suffer
>> >> catastrophic losses from a convention is not going to be
>sufficient
>> >going
>> >> forward.
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest that board discussion consider the following.
>> >>
>> >> If AIS takes on the riskiest and costliest expense of the
>> >convention,
>> >> should
>> >>
>> >> AIS then also receive some part of the revenues generated by the
>> >> convention?
>> >>
>> >> (for example, collect a fixed portion of registration fees and
>> >receive all
>> >> revenues from silent auction)
>> >>
>> >> Should AIS get involved in fund raising for conventions?
>> >>
>> >> What is the impact on the long term financial health of AIS?
>While
>> >AIS
>> >> manages its finances fairly well by managing its expenses with
>> >variable
>> >> revenues. How will AIS manage with a significant variable
>expense?
>> >>
>> >> The last question is probably the most important.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, I won't be at the national convention this year.
>I
>> >will see
>> >> some of you at the Siberian convention.
>> >>
>> >> Maureen Mark
>> >> Ottawa, Ontario
>> >> (Not a current board director)
>> >>
>> >> On 2012-01-11, at 3:00 AM, "pwgossett@juno.com"
>> ><pwgossett@juno.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Good Evening Folks,
>> >>>
>> >>> The weekend of December 3 & 4, 2011, I had the pleasure of
>meeting
>> >with
>> >>> the Delaware Valley Iris Society at their winter board meeting
>in
>> >>> Pennsylvania. After they concluded their board meeting they
>> >allowed me
>> >>> to
>> >>
>> >>> tell them my thoughts about them hosting an AIS Convention in
>> >their area
>> >>> and what AIS can do to assist them. We discussed all aspects of
>> >hosting
>> >>> a
>> >>
>> >>> convention and had volunteers to be the Chairperson, Guest Iris
>> >Chair,
>> >>> Transportation Chair, and Treasurer all from the area. We also
>> >discussed
>> >>> 4 or 5 gardens that might be on tour along with local non iris
>> >gardens
>> >>> and
>> >>
>> >>> historical attractions that could be used as an optional tour.
>> >They
>> >>> would
>> >>
>> >>> like to receive guest plants but, will have to have a
>limitation
>> >on the
>> >>> number and also 2014 would be too soon for them if they would
>be
>> >>> receiving
>> >>
>> >>> guest plants.
>> >>>
>> >>> We also discussed financial concerns and obligations. I believe
>> >their
>> >>> greatest concern is how much of a role would AIS be willing to
>> >take in
>> >>> both manpower and financial. On the financial side the hotel is
>> >the
>> >>> biggest expense of a convention. I believe if AIS would be
>willing
>> >to
>> >>> sign the hotel contract and take on the financial
>responsibility
>> >of the
>> >>> hotel we might have a convention site on the east coast
>probably
>> >not in
>> >>> 2014 but, maybe 2016 or 2017. They are thinking about it now
>and
>> >will
>> >>> make a decision by the end of January. I am hoping for a
>positive
>> >>> response from them on hosting an AIS Convention.
>> >>>
>> >>> My question to the AIS Board is.... Would AIS be willing to
>sign
>> >the
>> >>> hotel contract and take on the financial responsibility of the
>> >hotel? I
>> >>> would estimate the cost of the hotel expenses would be about
>> >$25,000.
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to have your suggestions as to what I need to do
>and
>> >what
>> >>> role will AIS have in this convention and also future
>conventions.
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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