Dear Phyllis and others. I think the record of foreign irises is much better than that of domestic hybridizers. The French especially have done very well at utilizing the wiki to show off their irises. Since around 50% of irises registered are now from abroad it is valuable to have their cooperation. I think some real effort should be made to encourage overseas hybridizers to send photos and I think it should be emphasized with others Iris societies that registration and the wiki are both services to the international community. The wiki has reached out for a long time to irisarians speaking other languages trying to encourage the translation of names and descriptions into the native tongue and English. It is sometimes surprising to learn that the Alliterated Registration name is sometimes the same or very close to an English name that has already been used. Generally the International Registration authorities encourage the cultivar registrars to translate and provide original language as part of the registration.
As far as adding pages to the registration form for pictures is not necessary. If the current registration form were put out as a fillable file you can easily add a link to as many attached pictures as you would like. Creating a fillable form is somewhat frustrating because of how it works but could probably be done with and hours work I would do it as an example when I get a stable internet connection.
If the board decides to send a letter, I would volunteer to print it and mail it to all the addresses sent to me.
I agree with Howie Dash that we need to include the statement that if a photo is not included the iris will not be considered an official introduction for the purposes of entering the AIS Awards system. I don't know how this change will affect our collection of photos for foreign introduced irises, as they are in not the AIS Awards system, unless they were introduced in the US (or Canada?). John Jones is the expert on foreign irises that are registered and introduced, so perhaps he can clarify this. In the long run, it would appear to me that we will have a durth of photos for foreign irises, since there is no 'carrot' to encourage them to send them. Are these foreign irises included in the Wiki? If they are, then we should want to receive a photo. Perhaps Robert has the answer to this question.A letter to hybridizers is necessary to explain the change and encourage them to comply. Apparently, based on the stats that were presented about the number of hybridizers who do not send photos, we need to use a more powerful form of communication than we have in the past. If it requires that the Registration Form go to two pages to accomplish a reminder on that form, then we should consider that also.--On Sunday, August 16, 2020 at 10:58:06 AM UTC-7 Robert Pries wrote:I agree with Cheryl that it is important to send a letter to all recent hybridizers. One of our most important services in AIS is communication. It has been said by researchers that it often takes someone hearing something for seven times before it sinks in. I do not think it would be bad to inform by as many means possible or practical.The wiki has for at least a couple of years been featuring a larger picture on each cultivar page. We have tried to feature the picture with the best provenance or compliance to the written description. Certainly we can designate official pictures that are recieved from the hybridizer. On some older varieties where the hybridizer is dead we often include their images that were taken from their slides. Some of these old images are faded or color skewed because of old film or cameras. When these images came from historic sources we have included them even when they seem poor representations. But we have tried to find current images that best represent the cultivar.From: "cheryl deaton" <region...@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Motion to Change requirement to submit image to DATE OF INTRODUCTIONAs a judge, how would I know an iris is not eligible for an award when I see it in a garden? I know it would not show up on the official ballot, but I still feel we should reach out to ALL hybridizers with an official letter, explaining the importance of submitting a photo of their iris when registering it for introduction - their photo becomes the official record of what their iris looks like which will hopefully eliminate any errors on the WIKI, and as we are the worldwide registrar of all iris, it is extremely important to get a proper image.Cheryl
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Subject: Re: Motion to Change requirement to submit image to DATE OF INTRODUCTIONI think the motion needs to say that an iris introduced without a photo or an exemption shall not be considered an official introduction for the purposes of entering the AIS Awards system.--
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It is my understanding that this will be place on the Agenda of The August 26 Meeting of the AIS Board of Directors.
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