Re: [AISdiscuss] Re: JT Handbook Revisions

["Loberg" <loberg@adelphia.net>]

1.   "It only seems fair that ANY judge who gives one-on-one garden training 
should receive credit for that training of the apprentice.  To exclude an 
Active Master defies logic.  Cheryl Deaton"



     I agree with Cheryl, it defies logic.   Any judge should receive 
credit for giving the training.



2.   The handbook states a retired master can be used as a show bench judge 
if they are assigned to a panel with an accredited judge, but the handbook 
is silent as to whether a retired master can give training sessions.   Our 
region just approved a training session, put on by a retired master who has 
been retired nearly 5 years.    This retired judge hasn't been participating 
in the required training in Region 14 for 5 years, isn't required to vote 
the ballot, so it defies logic as to how a retired master is authorized to 
give AIS training.



3.   "I was/ am still bothered by judges who barely manage to get their 5 
hours every three years, while others are getting 10 or 12 hours per year. 
Which one would you rather have judge your show? I don't think that 
requiring more hours is necessarily the answer - this might lead to more 
judge attrition - but maybe publishing the hours or requiring that a certain 
% be garden judging might help.  Vince Lewonski"



     I agree with Vince on this one.   I served a 3 year term as JT chair, 
and it bothered me that some judges barely squeezed by getting their minimum 
hours.  Serving at many shows, I found those same judges to be weak at the 
show table, as they often don't know the varieties.  I too suggested 
publishing the hours in some format, maybe just a Star (*)  for 10 hours or 
more in 3 years, instead of 5 hrs.   It would help show chairs to know who 
has higher levels of annual training.



4.       Requiring garden training comes with its own set of problems.   We 
had a garden training session last year at a large regional that was a 
disaster.  I don't know the count of individuals in the garden, but it 
seemed like 60-80, there was no room between rows, people had to stand half 
way across the garden and couldn't see anything, many of the judge attendees 
couldn't hear a thing, myself included.  So my suggestion is that there 
needs to be guidelines set for establishing the maximum number of 
participants per garden session, identifying the need for adequate room so 
that the attendees can see the iris being spoke about, and sufficient time. 
Sessions could be repeated if necessary.   I've seen clubs try to squeeze in 
1 hour of garden training, which is suppose to have a written test, and I 
think that's another invitation for a poorly given session.  I think 1 = 
hours should be the minimum for a garden session.



5.       The handbook is silent about whether the 2 hour garden tutoring for 
apprentices includes a written exam.  However, the handbook does say a 
written test is required for other normal two hour or longer sessions.  It 
might help to clarify the apprentice tutoring sessions as it pertains to an 
exam.



I appreciate hearing everyone's comments!



Kitty Loberg

Northern Calif.

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