RE: Electronic Voting


Hi there!



While I agree with Jill that the future is the computer, I think we would
alienate many older members who do not have a computer and will never get a
computer, by making electronic voting "mandatory".  Electronic voting will
make tallying much easier, voting easier, etc., but there are those who will
prefer to vote 'the old fashioned way' by hand, snail mail, etc.  These few
(and they will get fewer yearly) should be able to vote with the method they
feel most comfortable, and the additional work involved in hand tallying won't
be as arduous as the job entails now!

Cheryl

> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:01:35 -0700
> From: aistreas@earthlink.net
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Electronic Voting
>
> Hi John and All,
>
> I agree with others so far that we continue further discussion/research of
the
> costs and implementation of our own Eballot system.
>
> A $5,500 total cost for a system the AIS owns is far better than shelling
out
> $3500 or more per year ad infinitum for the system you and Ruth described
at
> the Spring meeting. Do you have any idea at this point how much the annual
> maintenance of the program would be once it is up and running? Could it be
> created and beta tested in time to use it for the 2010 ballot season? Would
> the $5,500 approximate cost include all "bug" fixing that could come up
after
> implementation? Would the Electronic Services Committee be in charge of
> setting the written specifications for the system?
>
> I think we would also need to have a manual backup system for those judges
and
> members who will not be able to vote electronically,... OR do we want to
make
> voting manditory electronically once we have a system in place?
>
> Overall, I think an electronic system for voting is the way to go. The
future
> is here and it is the computer. It is becoming more of a necessity every
year
> to have one to conduct our personal and business business.
>
> Jill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: John I Jones <JIJONES@usjoneses.com>
> >Sent: Jun 11, 2009 9:46 PM
> >To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> >Subject: [AISdiscuss] Electronic Voting
> >
> >All,
> >
> >At the Spring Board Meeting Ruth Barker and I were asked to provide a
> >more definitive estimate of what it would cost to employ the eBallot
> >system. In reviewing our conversations with the eBallot
> >representative, we have come up with this estimate.
> >
> >Annual license fee ( 4000 users) $3500.00
> >Set up the Annual Ballot (on our behalf) $695.00
> >Upload user list (900 names) $250.00
> >Provide random user names and passwords $350.00
> >Total (first year) $4795.00
> >Subsequent years $3500.00
> >
> >We would not contract for setting up the annual ballot but might use
> >some of the other options. The minimum cost for two years would
> >certainly be $7000.
> >
> >I have been investigating an alternative, specifically, having a
> >electronic voting application programmed specifically for us.
> >
> >In the spirit of full disclosure the contractor I would recommend to
> >do this is the husband of my niece  Charles (Chip) Miller. Chip is a
> >graduate of the University of Virginia Comm School (the equivalent of
> >business schools at other universities) and is very talented. He has
> >set up his own company doing backend database processing for web
> >interfaces.
> >
> >The application as I have defined it would provide the functionality
> >that we would need, with fewer bells and whistles (things that we
> >dont need) than the eBallot system but would provide essentially the
> >same functionality plus a more convenient interface for doing some of
> >the major functions. Specifically:
> >
> >7 Load and manage multiple user constituencies (manually for
> >single entries and from predefined lists e.g., Excel files, for groups).
> >7 Automatically generate and email passwords to users.
> >7 Load, edit, and manage multiple ballots with different deadlines.
> >7 Assign individual users privileges to vote different
> >(multiple) ballots
> >7 Provide an attractive easy to use interface for administrative
> >and voting functions,
> >7 Provide tabulation of votes in downloadable format(s)
> >7 Be implemented using languages and systems that are state-of-
> >the-art and supportable for the lifetime of the application (minimum
> >of 10 years). That probably means application languages like Ruby in
> >a Ruby on Rails framework and a MySQL database
> >
> >Obviously there are a lot more details that go hand in hand with the
> >above features, but it is not necessary to list all of them. If there
> >are specific questions, I will be glad to provide more detail.
> >
> >The application would be designed to support the annual AIS Official
> >Ballot, the annual Symposium, and any Board measures we would want to
> >vote on. Additionally, it could be used simultaneously by Sections
> >and Cooperating Societies if they wanted to.
> >
> >We could own the application and could, if we wished, have multiple
> >installations of the application and sell licenses to use it to other
> >organizations. (Please note that I only said could)
> >
> >The cost of developing and installing this application would be in
> >the range of $5000-$5500 probably less. I would propose that half the
> >cost come from the General Fund and half from the Restricted
> >Electronic Services Fund.
> >
> >I will leave a little time for discussion and pending those comments
> >make a motion to move forward on this. (There will of course be the
> >standard amount of time allowed for the discussion of a properly
> >entered and seconded motion as per our standard procedures)
> >
> >John
> >
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