Re: July AIS Bulletin for Emembers

[Jill Bonino <aistreas@earthlink.net>]

Dana, John, Bob, Gerry, Clarence and others,

I have been following this discussion and as AIS Treasurer I want to provide some financial facts from the AIS operations to help clarify what the regular, life and emembers services cost AIS compared to what we charge for them.  

I need a few days to pull this information from the books over the past few years and since we institued e members.  I am also still involved with the 2012 AIS Convention.  We are now digging, marking and filling orders from our affiliates and others for guest plants.  Lots going on, so give me a few days and I will have more info for you.  

Thanks,  Jill


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dana Brown <ddbro@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Jul 30, 2012 11:14 AM
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
>
>So Bob, you want my answer to these folks to be that you think they are trying
>to cheat AIS?  That ought to drive our membership numbers right through
>the....floor!
>
>Dana
> 
>Dana Brown
>ddbro@sbcglobal.net
>Malevil Iris Gardens &
>Kennels
>www.malevil-iris.com
>
> I own a dog and I vote!!
>________________________________
>From: Robert Pries
><robertpries@embarqmail.com>
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Sent: Mon, July 30,
>2012 12:32:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July AIS Bulletin for Emembers
>
>I
>am delighted that members should want e-membership. Perhaps we have created
>something of value. But apparently it is not enough value to pay for it. I am
>a 
>life member. When I joined with life there was no e-membership. There was
>no 
>Iris Encyclopedia and there was no Iris Register.  The amount I paid did
>nothing 
>to provide for these services. Even though there was a period of high
>interest 
>rates after I joined as a life member these were not enough to pay
>for all the 
>bulletins I now enjoy. In fact presently AIS looses money on Life
>members with 
>interest rates as low as they are at present. It is
>disappointing that Life 
>members would feel cheated. They are receiving
>services now that their 
>membership did not pay for. To think they cannot help
>to pay for new services is 
>discouraging. I guess we all want something for
>nothing. I do not mind paying 
>for things I use. I am sure there are life
>members who have no internet 
>connections and perhaps cannot afford them. They
>are proba!
>bly perfectly happy with the bulletin. Originally it was believed
>that e-members 
>would help to subsidize, at least a little, the costs of
>regular print 
>membership. Although with the amount we spent on e-membership
>from, grants, 
>donations, etc. I am not sure it has turned out to help much.
>But e-members are 
>helping to pay the costs of what print members are getting,
>but the print 
>members are crying foul that they should get what e-members get
>all for free. 
>Who is trying to cheat whom.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Gerry,
>    I think we should have listened closer to what you were saying
>because that 
>is what I am hearing now.  Most of the folks that are unhappy
>feel like they are 
>getting cheated.  They bought and paid for "full"
>memberships and now, there are 
>things they can't get to unless they pay
>again, and again, and again, every 
>year.
>    I go back to my previous
>question and I'll add a few more that I have been 
>asked.  
>
>    * What do
>these
>electronic services cost us?  
>    * Is the cost covered by our
>e-members dues?  
>* How many e-members do we have?  
>    * How much do we need
>to charge our
>regular members for this service?  
>    Since my first post, I
>have received
>several additional emails from folks 
>thanking me for bringing
>it up and
>stating that they feel the same way.  I 
>think there are a lot of
>people
>unhappy about this that just haven't spoken out.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dana
>  
>Dana
>Brown
>ddbro@sbcglobal.net
>Malevil Iris Gardens & Kennels
>www.malevil-iris.com
>I
>own a dog and I vote!!
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