Re: July Bulletin
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- From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:34:53 -0400 (EDT)
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IF THE American Iris Society were successful it would be gaining membership
not loosing membership. Obviously doing the same things we have done for 89
years is no longer working. I believe Einstein said repeating the same thing
but expecting different results is the definition of insanity. considering we
have lost practically half our membership in the last 15 years I would suggest
we don't need to change something. we need to change a lot. We have now
reached points of critcal mass that financially will no longer allow us to do
what we have been doing anyway. The question is not whether to change but how.
I have no idea whether changing the suze of the bulletin would help or not. It
is a rather old fogey format in todays world. But the weakess argument one
could possibly make is that is the way we have done it. Obviously the way we
have done a kot of things is no longer working. If we have so few members we
can not produce a bulletin then all those with 89 years of books will now have
a complete set.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Dennis Hager" <hager@aredee.com>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:55:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
Very few decisions should be cast in stone. How many of you carried cell
phones 15 years ago? How many of you had an email account 15 years ago? More
importantly, how many of you even considered that you may some day carry a
cell phone or have an email account?
One of the most offered reasons for doing something a certain way is because
"that is the way we have always done it." That happens to also be one of the
worst reasons to do something a certain way. How about doing it because it
makes sense?
This organization should not settle for anything because it was "good
enough". The goal should be excellence.
Off my soap box and back in a hole.
Dennis Hager
----- Original Message -----
From: <MORRISJE1@aol.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
> In a message dated 7/30/2009 1:54:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> terry@flowerfantasy.net writes:
>
> Hi All
> I love these comments! Been there, done that, but we could do it again?
> "Wrong size". This was brought up 15 years ago when I first became
> editor.
> At that time, it would have allowed us to add pages to the bulletin
> (content) without adding the cost of PERFECT BIND (It is more expensive).
> The idea was not well received - then. We went to perfect bind which does
> make a nicer book with the edge binding issue info. And offers unlimited
> pages. We were at the limit with "staple stitching". So we went to
> perfect
> bind and increased the page count to 128 from about 96.
> Put me in the same camp with Terry and Clarence on this one. 89 years
> (wow) with our format is good enough for me.
>
>
> From another perspective, I also belong to the Orchid Society ($60.00 per
> year). They went to the "coffee table" magazine size (8 1/2 x 11")
> several
> years ago. This was during the early stages of serious membership drop.
> The
> magazine is very impressive but it did not stop the membership drop -
> which
> is still more severe than ours. This just speaks to the motivation for
> "change". We need a better reason.
>
> "Month" versus "season". Since the beginning of (my) time, there have
> always
> been people out there who live by the stopwatch and complain bitterly
> when
> our magazine does not arrive on day one of the month of issue. I might
> defend our position by saying that commercial magazines have a full time
> paid staff - unlike some other "volunteer" organizations. I did suggest
> "seasons" as a way out of this dilemma. Again, not a positive response -
> back then. ""Winter", "Spring", "Summer", "Fall" works fine with me.
> I do remember Ron Mullin defending the Bulletin delivery time by saying
> that
> it was the "month of assembly and delivery". I like that one and have
> lived
> by it. Occasionally, we get lucky and have an "early issue". This
> particular
> issue had a time line that had nothing to do with AIS. Erica was going on
> vacation (some civilized people do that!!!)on the 4th of July so, for me,
> it
> was a do or die situation. We made it with an hour to spare. (I love
> stress!!) I'm not sure that Erica did!
> I prefer the "month" versus "season" with all the restrictions Terry has
> to
> work with. MIS went to the "season" for The Medianite back when we had
> four issues per year. The "winter" issue was always confusing as most of
> the "real" winter was always in the following year and several times that
> issue wasn't actually published until "the following year" which many
> people
> did not like and was confusing at the time and later in doing research.
> Which year is winter? Season ending or season beginning? As a researcher
> I
> prefer being able to reference a month and year to any article. The AIS
> Bulletin looks good in a bookcase with perfect binding which allows for
> Issue
> number and month and year to be printed on the edge. If one has 89 years
> worth (I don't, only 45) of AIS Bulletins on the shelf, it takes awhile
> to
> find even the right year (much less issue) for those issues that had the
> Issue number and month/year printed only on the front cover. The new
> issue
> indexes help a lot but there are many articles or vignettes not listed in
> the
> TOC or index and without attribution in past Bulletins of any era.
>
>
>
> Anyway, keep those cards and letters coming. I am enjoying the
> conversation.
> Terry
> Me too. And I agree that we have been there, done that two or three
> times
> in the past 30 years or so. I guess I am conservative about the
> publication just like Clarence. I like it the way it is with fourteen or
> so color
> pages. My July Bulletin came today! Most impressive Terry. Picture
> flow
> is very good.
>
> Jim M.
>
>
>
>
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