Re: July Bulletin

[Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>]

I sure a number of people might point out that the daylily society has changed
from the journal size to 81/2 by 11. No one thing is going to change our
membership loss. But revitalizing the society will take an effort on many
fronts. I think it possible to have an even better society in the future. I am
not a pessimist. The gardening public demands more today because they can get
it. Even though we have changed we have not changed as fast as the comminity
at large. We continue to fall further behind the expectations of the gardening
public. Changing formats would only be a small step towards what is expected
today. I have to admit I find it hard to change. It was pointed out to me that
many organizations now have a facebook page. I spent a whole day trying to
create one for AIS and am now trying to get my password worked out with
Facebook. AAAARGH! I would be happy to have some younger assistants for the PR
post since I seem to be chronologically challenge. Can one say old fart on
e-mail?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:50:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin

Hi All
I love these comments! Been there, done that, but we could do it again?
"Wrong size". This was brought up 15 years ago when I first became editor.
At that time, it would have allowed us to add pages to the bulletin
(content) without adding the cost of PERFECT BIND (It is more expensive).
The idea was not well received - then. We went to perfect bind which does
make a nicer book with the edge binding issue info. And offers unlimited
pages. We were at the limit with "staple stitching". So we went to perfect
bind and increased the page count to 128 from about 96.
>From another perspective, I also belong to the Orchid Society ($60.00 per
year). They went to the "coffee table" magazine size (8 1/2 x 11") several
years ago. This was during the early stages of serious membership drop. The
magazine is very impressive but it did not stop the membership drop - which
is still more severe than ours. This just speaks to the motivation for
"change". We need a better reason.

"Month" versus "season". Since the beginning of (my) time, there have always
been people out there who live by the stopwatch and complain bitterly when
our magazine does not arrive on day one of the month of issue. I might
defend our position by saying that commercial magazines have a full time
paid staff - unlike some other "volunteer" organizations. I did suggest
"seasons" as a way out of this dilemma. Again, not a positive response -
back then. ""Winter", "Spring", "Summer", "Fall" works fine with me.
I do remember Ron Mullin defending the Bulletin delivery time by saying that
it was the "month of assembly and delivery". I like that one and have lived
by it. Occasionally, we get lucky and have an "early issue". This particular
issue had a time line that had nothing to do with AIS. Erica was going on
vacation (some civilized people do that!!!)on the 4th of July so, for me, it
was a do or die situation. We made it with an hour to spare. (I love
stress!!) I'm not sure that Erica did!

Anyway, keep those cards and letters coming. I am enjoying the conversation.
Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of cheryl deaton
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:26 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin

Kitty, Bob and everyone,



I also think the Bulletin is the wrong size, and to stir the pot further, I
think it is time we stop with the "month" name and transition to the
'season'
name - Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.  We could still aim for the month,
but
this way we would stop the "Where's my ____ (insert month) Bulletin?"
(((That is NOT what they usually "insert"!!)))  Terry.)))



This issue is beautiful!



Cheryl

> From: iris.loberg@comcast.net
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:54:53 -0700
>
> Bob,
> I am so glad you said this... "except it is the wrong size". I have
> wondered for years whether AIS is doing it's members the greatest service
by
> retaining the small 5 1/2 by 8 1/2 size. All of my professional magazines
> which come to my office, using 'perfect binding', are all in 8 1/2 by 11
> inch size. The font can be a little larger for easier reading, they are
> just more eye appealing
> The only "real" magazine I get that is small, is Reader's Digest. All
> the other magazines are large. Anyone receive the magazine "Country
> Magazine"? The purpose of that magazine I believe is to show off color...
> in photography, about America and the shear beauty of the countryside. I
> have always felt and continue to feel that A.I.S. would be well served to
> produce their bulletin in the larger size. I love photography, so you'll
> understand when I say I'd love to see the AIS bulletin in a larger size
> where more color photography can be exhibited, and where pictures can be
> larger.
> Sincerely,
> Kitty Loberg
> AIS Photo Contest Chair
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
>
>
> Bob; You assume that just because we receive the bulletin we actually read
> it. Mine came today and it struck that it was incredibly well organized
> especially the flow of pictures in the middle. It almost seemed like a
real
> magazine except it is the wrong size.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Plank" <bobplankmail@aol.com>
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:22:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
>
> To all you folks commenting on the timeliness of receipt, how about
throwing
> in a little something on the merits of the issue.
>
> I was at the national too, and was absolutely amazed at the quality and
> artfulness of the full colored depictions and descriptions of the blossoms
> and garden landscapes in our BULLETIN. (Try writing that on a BlackBerry.)
>
> That' my input.
>
> Let's also hear it, one way or another, for the subject matter too.
>
> Your humble tax exemption coordinator,
>
> Bob
> ------Original Message------
> From: MORRISJE1@aol.com
> Sender: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> ReplyTo: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] July Bulletin
> Sent: Jul 29, 2009 6:49 PM
>
> In a message dated 7/29/2009 6:39:54 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> pwgossett@juno.com writes:
>
> Believe this or not Mr. Morris but, I received my bulletin
> today.......WOW! What can I say....I am usually one of the last ones to
> receive the bulletin......Paul
>
>
>
> Amazing! Still nothing here in Missouri.
>
> Jim
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