Re: -OPEN MEETINGS and password protected records

["R. Dennis Hager" <hager@aredee.com>]

Archives are like pressed flowers:  Faded and dead.

  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John I Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss]-OPEN MEETINGS and password protected records


> The archives for AISDiscuss and AISVote at www.aisboard.org are open  
> to anyone who is interested in looking at them. The archives are not  
> password protected.
>
> John
> On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Harold Stahly wrote:
>
> > Hello, all,
> >
> > It seems to me that Dennis has a point well taken. Convention Board  
> > meetings, in-person, non-electronic, are open to any interested  
> > person who can listen in on discussion of topics at any stage from  
> > their first proposal to their completion.   The only exception  
> > seems to b when the Board goes into executive session to discuss  
> > unusually sensitive matters.  This discussion does not become part  
> > of the meeting minutes.  Otherwise all meeting discussions and  
> > actions are open to any AIS members.  Should not electronic  
> > discussion be treated in the same way?
> >
> > Hal
> >
> > On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:16 AM, R. Dennis Hager wrote:
> >
> > > Excuse my little rant, but you're going to get it anyway.
> > >
> > > Although there may be some perceived advantage to having the AIS  
> > > Board minutes password protected, any such advantage is quickly  
> > > dissipated by the not so subtle message that it sends to any  
> > > marginally interested or totally disinterested party.
> > >
> > > Some meetings should be held in closed session. There are times  
> > > when announcements of the decisions of the Board should be  
> > > delayed. However, those times are rare and this is obviously not  
> > > one of them.
> > >
> > > What activity is the Board of a non-profit involved in that would  
> > > necessitate hampering the free flow of Board meeting minutes?
> > > Is someone just a little paranoid?
> > >
> > > The AIS has a membership problem. In this electronic age, it  
> > > doesn't take long to disseminate information and it doesn't take  
> > > long to disseminate the wrong image. How many of you would be  
> > > inclined to join an organization that requires a password to view  
> > > excerpts from Board meetings concerning procedure?
> > >
> > > I have been told that the AIS Board meetings are open meetings. If  
> > > it is an open meeting then for goodness sake (as opposed to evil's  
> > > sake), open the meeting.
> > >
> > > R. Dennis Hager, President
> > > Society for Japanese Irises
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John I Jones"  
> > > <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> > > To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:14 AM
> > > Subject: [AISdiscuss] Board Actions Concerning Electronic Voting
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have excerpted the two sections that I know of from the  
> > > > minutes  from past Board meetings concerning electronic voting  
> > > > and the AIS lists.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone knows of additional citations, please let me know and  
> > > > I  will add them.
> > > >
> > > > The document: AIS_Lists.pdf  can be found at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.aisboard.org/aisdocs/
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
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