Re: Convention Ownership


I have a question for Dennis that I would like him to answer.


What is the incentive for the Chapter or Region if the AIS takes ownership and the profits of a convention?

All My Best
Will


----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Dennis Hager" <hager@aredee.com>
To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [AISdiscuss] Convention Ownership


There is no doubt that without Paul, there would be no AIS Convention. I posed these questions not to attack Paul, but to point out to the Board that the current structure really needs to be changed. The AIS Convention is a crapshoot, with the dice being passed on to the next soul who wanders into the game.

Am I the only person who believes that something should be done to improve the quality of the AIS Convention?

Ultimately, the responsibility of the AIS Board is to keep the organization alive. Having vibrant and successful conventions is key to the health of the AIS.

I would suggest to you that the AIS needs to take ownership of the convention. The AIS should handle finances, programs, national and international marketing, plant registration, handbooks, attendee registration and hotel. The host club should handle gardens, local marketing, hospitality and transportation, with the assistance of the AIS.

For many organizations, ownership of a convention (and the profits) is a huge asset. With ownership comes responsibility. For some reason, the AIS Board has decided not to own the convention. I don't know why and it doesn't really matter. What does matter that if the AIS really wants the Convention to continually improve, the Board needs to decide to take ownership of it and provide Paul or whoever is in his position with the resources and backing to make each subsequent convention better than the one before.

When it comes to convention and event management, there is nothing truly unique about the AIS. There are professional convention and event managers who routinely handle much more complicated events. It is time for one to be consulted. For the record, I do not personally know any professional event planners and have no financial interest in any organization that provides such services.

Dennis Hager




-----Original Message----- From: Jill Bonino
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:02 PM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention

I agree with Cheryl. Paul has been indispensable (?) to us for the 2012 Convention.

The Canada Convention created a great Bus Book for Bus Captains which we are using as a guide for the 2012. This can be passed along. There are also spreadsheets, memos, and letters we created for promotion that can be copies and passed along too. Jill


-----Original Message-----
From: cheryl deaton <region15kids@hotmail.com>
Sent: Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention

Speaking on behalf of Region 15 and the 2012 AIS Convention Committee, I can attest to the invaluable help Paul as Convention Liason has given us from the
very beginning.  I agree that we need to share more information because in
certain areas the information is minimal at best, especially since many areas
have never hosted a convention.  Region 15 will happily share information.
Cheryl Deaton


From: pwgossett@juno.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:53:43 +0000
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention

Good Evening All,

I would like to answer these questions Dennis has brought forward as I see
it.

1) Who OWNS the Convention?
The owner would either be a local society or region. But, it would a shared
ownership if AIS, local society and/or region are all sharing in the expenses
on putting on the convention.

2) How should the Convention be promoted?
Through the AIS IRISES publication, regional newsletters, local newsletters,
AIS Web Site, local society web site, regional web site, AIS Facebook, and any local avenues such as tv stations, radio stations, garden club organizations,
master gardeners, newspapers.

3) Who owns the intellectual data that is generated at each convention?
I am assuming you are talking about names and contact information of those
attending the convention. The owner would be shared between local society
and/or region and AIS. AIS needs to do a better job at sharing this
information with the next convention so that they can communicate with those
that have attended the last several conventions.

4) Is that data used to promote and improve subsequent conventions?
As of right now, no the attendees information is not being shared but, other
information is being shared such as bus information.

5) What functions of the convention should be administered by the Host?
Convention Chairman, Guest Iris Coordinator, Transportation Coordinator,
Hospitality/Garden Refreshment Coordinator, Porta a Potty Coordinator,
Boutique Coordinator.

6) What functions of the convention should be administered by AIS?
Registration, Convention Booklet, Silent Auction, Web Site.

These positions could be handled by either a local or AIS person....Hotel
Meeting Schedule, Secretary, Publicity Coordinator, Awards Chair, and
Treasurer.

It would be the responsibility of the AIS Convention Liaison to assist with
the convention in any way he or she see needs to be done. At the present time I am actually putting together the Hotel Meeting Schedule and then letting a local person contact each of the sections or people whom have meetings at the
convention to get their approval of the times that have been scheduled for
each of those meetings. I also have meet with the hotel sales or banquet
contact person and work them also. I am also making a list of the meeting
speaker, the topic of their program, and their a/v equipment needs and then I will notify the AIS Editor, AIS Electronic Services Chair, and the hotel with
the a/v needs. I then at the convention make sure all is going well at the
convention whether it be at the hotel, buses, etc...... I am the Convention
Chairs right hand man.

Paul






---------- Original Message ----------
From: "R. Dennis Hager" <hager@aredee.com>
To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:53:00 -0500

There are underlying questions that need to be considered as a part of this
question.

Who OWNS the Convention?
How should the Convention be promoted?
Who owns the intellectual data that is generated at each convention?
Is that data used to promote and improve subsequent conventions?
What functions of the convention should be administered by the Host?
What functions of the convention should be administered by AIS?

These questions are NOT about how things ARE done, but how they SHOULD be
done.

Dennis Hager
Irisarian, Pharmacist, Restaurateur, Councilman, Former Mayor and General
Pain in the A....





-----Original Message-----
From: Maureen
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:40 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] 2014 AIS Convention

Hi Paul,

I think we all suspected that a discussion on AIS policy on conventions was
going to happen sooner rather than later.

I expect that the current ad hoc help at the back end should a club suffer catastrophic losses from a convention is not going to be sufficient going
forward.

I would suggest that board discussion consider the following.

If AIS takes on the riskiest and costliest expense of the convention, should AIS then also receive some part of the revenues generated by the convention? (for example, collect a fixed portion of registration fees and receive all
revenues from silent auction)

Should AIS get involved in fund raising for conventions?

What is the impact on the long term financial health of AIS? While AIS
manages its finances fairly well by managing its expenses with variable
revenues. How will AIS manage with a significant variable expense?

The last question is probably the most important.

Unfortunately, I won't be at the national convention this year. I will see
some of you at the Siberian convention.

Maureen Mark
Ottawa, Ontario
(Not a current board director)

On 2012-01-11, at 3:00 AM, "pwgossett@juno.com" <pwgossett@juno.com> wrote:

> Good Evening Folks,
>
> The weekend of December 3 & 4, 2011, I had the pleasure of meeting > with
> the Delaware Valley Iris Society at their winter board meeting in
> Pennsylvania. After they concluded their board meeting they allowed me > to > tell them my thoughts about them hosting an AIS Convention in their > area > and what AIS can do to assist them. We discussed all aspects of > hosting a
> convention and had volunteers to be the Chairperson, Guest Iris Chair,
> Transportation Chair, and Treasurer all from the area. We also > discussed > 4 or 5 gardens that might be on tour along with local non iris gardens > and > historical attractions that could be used as an optional tour. They > would > like to receive guest plants but, will have to have a limitation on > the > number and also 2014 would be too soon for them if they would be > receiving
> guest plants.
>
> We also discussed financial concerns and obligations. I believe their
> greatest concern is how much of a role would AIS be willing to take in
> both manpower and financial. On the financial side the hotel is the
> biggest expense of a convention. I believe if AIS would be willing to
> sign the hotel contract and take on the financial responsibility of > the > hotel we might have a convention site on the east coast probably not > in
> 2014 but, maybe 2016 or 2017. They are thinking about it now and will
> make a decision by the end of January. I am hoping for a positive
> response from them on hosting an AIS Convention.
>
> My question to the AIS Board is.... Would AIS be willing to sign the
> hotel contract and take on the financial responsibility of the hotel? > I
> would estimate the cost of the hotel expenses would be about $25,000.
>
> I would like to have your suggestions as to what I need to do and what
> role will AIS have in this convention and also future conventions.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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