Re: Foreign Registration Fee

[Gerry Snyder <geraldcsnyder@gmail.com>]

Huh?

The AIS fee is in addition to what the foreign registrar charges.
On Aug 12, 2011 8:42 AM, "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> The motion made by the board this Spring was; That foreign registrants pay
AIS
> the same registration fee as US and Canadian Registrants pay. Fee to be
paid
> in USD, effective August 1, 2011 . Motion carried . B Since the fees
> collected by The assistant registrars in each country have been given to
them
> for their services acting as collectors and translators B I would take
this
> to mean that AIS would have to return the amount to those assistants that
is
> under the price of registration and in some cases pay the additional
amount
> the were receiving to the assistants. The Foreign registrants fee should
not
> increase but in several cases may decrease because it will be the same as
USA
> registrants according to the motion and AIS will owe the respective
assistants
> those lost funds.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Jones" <jijones@usjoneses.com>
> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> Cc: "Mike Lowe" <mlowe@worldiris.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:14:52 PM
> Subject: [AISdiscuss] Foreign Registration Fee
>
> All,
>
>
> I have been in discussion with Michele Bersillon concerning the new fee
for
> foreign registrants to pay the same fee as North American hybridizers and
her
> request to register directly with the AIS since she is an American
national
> and files completely in English.
>
>
> I have previously told her that she would need to continue to file through
an
> associate registrar and that as to the fees. If the country registrar
charges
> a fee, it is in addition to the fee required by the AIS.
>
>
> Her most recent response is below and as the world wide registration
authority
> for non-bulbous irises, the AIS Board of Directors needs to be aware of
the
> potential implications of their recent decision.
>
>
> While some of this may just be pique, there may be some potential
problem(s).
> On the other hand I have notB yetB heard complaints from any other
Associate
> Registrars except to enquire about details of how people are to pay. I am
> setting up a PayPal account and trying to work out some of those details.
>
>
> We could adopt a policy that would allow the Associate Registrars to take
some
> amount of the AIS fee (e.g., $5.00) for their service. Registrants would
pay
> $10 to AIS and whatever fee to the Associate Registrar. Or pay the
Associate
> registrar directly and the Associate pay the AIS (via PayPal)
>
>
> I am open to other suggestions, lacking any other action by the Board, B
to
> continue with the policy as instituted.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>
> From: M Bersillon < auxiris5@orange.fr >
>
> Date: August 10, 2011 11:43:04 PM PDT
>
> To: John Jones < jijones@usjoneses.com >
>
> Subject: Re: Misc
>
>
> John,
>
>
> For your information, all associate registrars have always charged a fee
for
> registration (it varies from country to country), so all registrants
outside
> of north America will now be paying over $15 for each registration; I am
not
> the only one involved! B However, I would like to say feel that it is very
> unfair to ask people outside of the United States to now pay the
equivalent of
> somewhere between $19 and nearly $23 for official registration of each
plant
> and, unless the various European iris societies decide to stop demanding a
fee
> for registrations, you may eventually find yourself either with a
rebellion on
> your hands or simply a progressiveB refusalB on the part of Europeans to
> register their plants with the AIS. B This may result in the
indiscriminate
> use of names that may already have been used by previously registered
plants
> or simply those that aren't officially registered, even by plants that are
> commercialised, with the confusion that you can easily imagine. B There
are
> already a whole whack of iris commercialised in France that don't have
> officially registered names, including an entire page in the Bourdillon
> catalogue, for example; I don't know why they never registered these
plants.
> B B
>
>
>
> Just for the record and since you ask, I ceased registering my plants with
the
> SFIB for many reasons. B First of all, the registrar of this association
made
> many mistakes on one of my first registrations and then, when I sent him
> corrections, he set about making others and finally I had to correct the
> problem directly with Keith Keppel, since Jean Peyrard is a most difficult
> person to deal with directly and does not accept remarks about the
mistakes
> that he continues to make with good grace. B Then I had other problems
with
> the association and no longer wished either to be a member or pay them any
> money for any reason, so I requested to send in registration forms
directly
> and pay the full AIS fee, but was not allowed to do so. B The AIS
registrar at
> the time told me that I had to send my forms in French to the SFIB
registrar
> and then post a form in English directly to him, plus paying the SFIB fee,
> which was not acceptable to me---just to spare someone's feelings. B Life
is
> complicated enough already. B Simply to be able to continue to officially
> register plants, I asked Gisela Dathe if I could send in my already
filled-out
> English language forms through GdS and have been paying their fee even
though
> they do not do anything more than post my forms along with theirs. B Now
that
> the forms are likely to be electronic ones (a definite progress), there
may
> not be much in the way of actual postal fees, so I have no idea how they
will
> deal with that. B I would suggest that, as the new AIS registrar, you
contact
> them about how they are going to do things, as Gisela wasn't aware of how
> things are going to work now when I asked her earlier this year. B B
>
>
> Incidentally, Richard Cayeux told me a few things about his problems with
> registrations this year, including a refusal of the name "Ciel Gris sur
> Poilly", which seemed very strange to me since I didn't think the name
could
> possibly have already been used. B Apparently there was some issue about
the
> name having four words, but this has been allowed for quite some time now
and
> is even mentioned on the SFIB website, so it is very unclear what
happened.
> B Should Richard get in touch with you directly to straighten out this
matter?
> B B
>
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> MicheleB
>
>
> P.S My first name has only one "l". B
> B B
>
>
>
>
> __________________B
> John I Jones
> Registrar-Recorder
> American Iris Society
> aisregistrar@irises.org
>
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