RE: AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals

["Brad" <zebrairis1@aol.com>]

Thankz! again Jill,

As I suspected the scientific committee doesn't have budget authority to
issue BOTH grants at this time in spite of Bob's argument that they should
have this authority because they gave up some of their budget to the
electronic committee.

The scientific committee should have submitted a motion to increase their
TWO-year budget authority to cover the total cost of both grants at least a
month before submitting a motion to approve these grants.  If they had they
would know whether-or-not the Board was willing to fund BOTH grants. Because
they didn't the Board is now being put in the untenable position of
violating sound accounting principles if we approve BOTH grants before the
deadline of September.

Since I support both grants if we can find and approve the money to fund
them, I would like to offer my option for working this situation.

1.) Since there is no way the Board can approve the current motion without
violating sound accounting principles, it should be withdrawn posthaste and
be replaced with one to approve Jinyan Guo's two-year grant(it is unfair to
the grantee and a waste of our money to only fund the first-year of a
two-year grant)since the Restricted Scientific Fund currently contains the
funds to pay for both years. (I hope we could limit the discussion period to
only 7 days to keep things moving.)

2.) Next that the scientific committee be allowed to submit a second motion
requesting Budget approval to also fund Alan Meerow's grant as soon as the
their first motion goes to AISVote.  Alan Meerow should be contacted and
asked if he would still be interested in approval of his grant even if it is
delayed by a few weeks.  At this time there is no way to know if the funding
will be available unless someone or a group of folks on AISdiscus wish to
donate the necessary funds to the Restricted Scientific Fund.

3.) Regardless of whether-or-not the funding motion is approved, the
scientific committee be allowed to submit a motion to approve the Alan
Meerow grant when their budget motion goes to vote.  This motion can be
withdrawn if the budget approval motion fails, but the discussion can be
started.

Finally, that the Board members and Past-Presidents start an informal
discussion on asiconfer about whether-or-not there is a realistic hope of
approving the necessary budget funds for Alan Meerow's grant. I real do hope
we can find the funds to approve his grant.

If anyone has other options on how to solve this funding and time dilemma,
I'm sure everyone on the Board would like to consider them so please put
them of aisdiscuss.

All the best,
Brad Kasperek
 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
On Behalf Of Jill Bonino
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:30 AM
To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals

Currently, the Restricted Scientific Fund holds $4597 that can be used for
Grants.  This is short of the current request of $6160 by $1563.  As Bob
mentioned, the amount budgeted for the website update of $8000 (of which
only $5000 comes out of the General Fund) has not been used to date.  

So far this year, Bulletin expenses (which is the AIS's largest expense) is
well within budget.  Income has also been close to what we estimated.  

I would recommend approving the Scientific grants for 2008 only at this
point.  We can discuss the 2009 outlay in November when we discuss the
budget.   Between now and the fiscal year end 9-30-08, our budget can afford
the overage of $1563 to approve the 2008 grant amounts.  

This might involve an edit of Gary's motion to specify that the approval is
for 2008 only....

Jill   

-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 1, 2008 3:02 PM
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals
>
>I was at the fall meeting when the budget was created. At that time we
allocated $5000 to the scientific fund to be added to $5000 that was already
in the fund. We also had $2000 for Advertising. At that point the budget was
balanced. But just before adjournment it was proposed that $9000 was needed
to redo the website. In order to balance the budget My committee forfeited
the $2000 and the scientific committee forfeited the $5000 to compensate for
the change. To my knowledge there have been no proposals for the use of the
$9000 this year so I would assume we are presently that far ahead in our
budget and it seems likely that the proposals for its allocation will not be
realized until the next budget. Therefore I would suggest that the money
should be available for the science committee in this calender year if we so
choose.--Bob
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brad" <zebrairis1@aol.com>
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 4:56:19 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals
>
>Hi All,
>
>I believe this motion commits more money than the current budget recognizes
>for research. Is this motion appropriate for changing our current budget?
Or
>should a budget increase be approved prior to agreeing to spend more than
is
>currently allotted?
>
>What appreciate Jill and Roy's opinion on this.
>
>All the best,
>Brad Kasperek
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
>On Behalf Of Robert Pries
>Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:40 AM
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Cc: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals
>
>I second the motion in the message below.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "gary white" <in2iris@yahoo.com>
>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 11:58:18 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>Subject: [AISdiscuss] AIS- Scientific Grant Proposals
>
>The Scientific Advisory Committee received two research grant proposals.
The
>first proposal is by Miss Jinyan Guo, titled "Phylogenetic and
developmental
>study of Iris subgenus Limniris section Lophiris and related species".
The
>second proposal is by Dr. Allan Meerow, and titled "Heterogeneity,
>ecological
>specialization and introgression in a large population of Iris
>savannarum".   Both of these proposals were reviewed by the committee
>and recommended for funding by the American Iris Society.   The total first
>year cost is $6160.   Both are two-year studies.  The total second year
cost
>is $6405.   Payments to researchers can be made in increments throughout
the
>two-year period.
> 
>I move that the AIS fund both Miss Guo's research grant request and Dr.
>Meerow's research grant request.
> 
>Gary White,
>AIS Director
>Chair of Scientific Advisory Committee
>
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