Re: Print On Demand



On Apr 26, 2011, at 4:43 PM, kay ludi wrote:

Hello all,
We appreciate the amount of hard work and research that has taken place
to provide this information.
This is the first time that we at the AIS Storefront have been provided
any of this information.

The AIS Storefront was established to provide a single location for
customer/membership purchase of AIS publications and iris related items.
From time to time the AIS Board of Directors has selected other iris
related publication from an outside source to be offered for sale from
the AIS Storefront. In the past availability of the publications and
custom support have been of most importance at the ONE-STOP SERVICE
CENTER. We take great pride in being able to provide continuing service
to the AIS membership.

The proposed Print On Demand concept means that the AIS membership will
have to go to an outside source to purchase an AIS Publication.

Not necessarily, as I noted in the previous email, we could always "order copies at our cost to have on hand at the AIS Storefront or to offer for sale at our meetings and conventions." We could carry lower inventories at what ever level we wanted.



1. Is AIS in a situation or condition that requires the membership to go
outside of the AIS Storefront to obtain an AIS Publication?

We could offer the eStore as an option for those that would like it.


2. Are the AIS Board of Directors and Officers willing to tell the
membership that the 2000-2009 Ten-Year Checklist will not be made
available at the AIS Storefront? That orders for this publication will be
sent to a vendor outside AIS? (As managers of the AIS Storefront, we
desire not to be put in this position. Unfortunately, since we are the
customer's point of contact for sales items, we will have to provide this
information.)

As mentioned above the Storefront could carry what ever inventroy they thought appropriate for the customers they are serving. Individuals would not have to go to the eStore.

3. What will happen if the vendor all of a sudden is no longer in
business or refuses to provide the service?

CreateSpace is an Amazon company and has been in operation since 2005. The companies that Amazon acquired that became CreateSpace were started in 2000 and 2002. Unlikely as is is, if they should happen to discontinue the service, we could always select another POD company or short run printer. Not worse and probably better than what we faced before when we ran out of previous Check Lists.


4. What method of payment will the vendor accept? Currently we accept
checks, money orders, credit cards (VISA or Mastercard only) and cash.
Several of our International customers have sent cash payments through
the mail (not a preferred method, but it happens). With the recent
proposal of changing the AIS Storefront to a Shopping Cart System, PayPal
will probably become an additional method of payment.

Through the eStore payment is by credit card. Having the other payment options is a good reason to carry some inventory in the Storefront.


Communication to Membership - Change in policy, procedures and pricing.
AIS has several means and avenues to get the information out to the
membership. However, the changes do not get down to the members. A prime
example is the recent price update and establishment of a Shipping and
Handling Fee for items sold at the AIS Storefront. We still receive
orders with the old prices or the S&H fee not included. A note is affixed to the shipping invoice explaining the change and "Payment Due". In most
cases the "Payment Due" is sent.

One of the advantages of the eStore is that we can immediately implement a price change at any time.


If it is decided to go to the Print On Demand Source, we expect to
receive orders for the 2000-2009 Ten-Year Checklist at the AIS
Storefront. If the order is for multiple items including the Checklist,
we will the order for items available at the AIS Storefront, provide a
refund check for the payment of the Checklist and a note informing the
customer to submit the order for the Checklist to another vendor/ source. (Orders with credit card payment will be charged for items shipped and a
note informing the customer to go to another source for the Checklist.
Orders for just the Checklist will be returned with the note. Does this
provide for good customer service and customer satisfaction?

Whether to make available the 2009 Checklist as a Paperback or Hardcover, is a determination for the Board. We have received a number of inquiries
as to where a Hardcover copy of previous Checklist can be obtained.

Using this POD we could submit as many different Checklists for POD AND have the hard cover option if that is thought to be what the membership wants AND we can order as many of them as we want or don't want.


We have continued to cut back the number of copies ordered/ inventoried of
new publications available at the AIS Storefront. The latest being the
2010 Registrations and Introductions Booklet. The initial inventory of
500 copies was established in late March. To date, we have had 69 orders for 165 copies. This publication will remain current until information is
published in the next Ten-Year Checklist,  9 years from now.

We, at the AIS Storefront, are not in favor of the Print On Demand as
proposed. We agree that the Print On Demand features will save money by not having a large inventory, we feel that our current level of customer service and customer support are critical in maintaining a positive AIS image and service for the AIS Membership. With this is mind, we offer the
following proposal:

I am not opposed to the proposal below, but I also think we could have the eStore option as well. (I thought I heard that the AIS Storefront had an online store in process as well, am I mistaken about that?)

John Jones


"That all Customer Orders for all AIS Publications be processed through
the AIS Storefront. Orders for the AIS 2000-2009 Ten-Year Checklist be
consolidated on a weekly basis for forwarding to the Print On Demand
vendor/facility. The AIS Treasurer will establish procedures for payment of services provided by the Print On Demand facility. After the initial
high demand for a new AIS Publication has past (TBD), customer orders
will be filled from an inventory established at the AIS Storefront. (In
the past 6 months we have had only 3 orders for anyone of the previous
Checklist.) In addition, a small inventory will be established at the AIS
Storefront for sales at meetings and conventions."

When we establish the price for the publication, we need to include not only the cost of the printing, but also the Shipping & Handling Fees that
the vendor will charge.

John & Kay Ludi
AIS Storefront



On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:40:47 -0700 John I Jones <jijones@usjoneses.com>
writes:
(If any of you have difficulty downloading or reading this I have put a
PDF version (POD_Description_R2) on the AISBoard website.


http://www.aisboard.org/aisdocs/




Over the past several years the subject of Print On Demand has come up in
relation to the various AIS publications we provide.


I decided to do some research on the subject and in conjunction with some pricing that Jody Nolin did and in consultation with Mike Lowe and Judy Keisling, I would like to present the following for discussion. I am not
at this time making a motion but rather want to make sure that we have
ample time to vet the issue.


I open this discussion in regards to printing the 2009 Checklist but the
same could apply to almost everything we print.


______________


Print On Demand (POD), sometimes called publish on demand, is a printing technology and business process in which new copies of a book (or other
document) are not printed until an order has been received. "Print on
Demand" developed only after digital printing began, because it was not economical to print single copies using traditional printing technology
such as letterpress and offset printing. In todays print market some
companies also use the term to mean short run printing often targeting
vanity or academic works.
In its simplest form copies of the document are only printed when an
order is received.
CreateSpace (createspace.com) is an established POD printer (an
Amazon.com company). I have approached them as a POD source for the 2009
Iris Check List. Following are the terms, operational characteristics,
and benefits of using this POD source.
This is how it works.
The CreateSpace primary thrust is to produce Trade Paperbacks but they
also have the capability to produce hardback books.
Production (for a Trade Paperback)
AIS signs up for a (free) account and submits a print ready file to
CreateSpace. The file is reviewed for conformance to their technical
standards. (No proof reading is performed, that would be our
responsibility.)
Once the file is approved we would order a proof copy. The charge for the proof copy is the same as a production copy (pricing below). The typical
time for production of the proof copy is 1-2 days.
Once the proof is approved, we set the list price for the book and
activate the sales channels we wish to use (see below).
At this point we are given a page in the CreateSpace eStore. This is a
webpage that anyone can use to purchase our book. If you would like to
see a sample page, go to:
https://www.createspace.com/3405715
(you may have to paste this address into the address bar of your browser)
Purchasers pay the list price plus shipping and we receive our royalty
from CreateSpace.
When a book is ordered CreateSpace prints the book and ships it to the
recipient. It generally takes 1-2 days for production. At the time the
order is placed the purchaser is given an estimated delivery time and has
a choice of shipping methods.
We can of course order copies at our cost to have on hand at the AIS
Storefront or to offer for sale at our meetings and conventions.
Production (Hardback)
Once the trade paperback version has been approved for production, we can opt to have the book produced in hard cover. There is an additional setup
charge and different pricing for this (see below).
Marketing
As part of the standard package CreateSpace provides an eStore page (as mentioned above) and a listing on Amazon.com. (At this time a hardcover
version would not be listed on Amazon, only on the eStore)
They also offer a Pro Plan option that allows us to earn additional
royalties and lower manufacturing costs as well as access to an Expanded Distribution Channel (EDC) with the potential to distribute our book to a
larger audience through more outlets including: retailers, bookstores,
libraries, academic institutions, wholesalers, and distributors. One
disadvantage of the EDC is that books sold through the Expanded
Distribution Channel may be manufactured by third parties. There may be
some minor differences in manufacturing (e.g. paper thickness, color
shade, etc.) between the EDC and other Channels. (Hardcover books are not
listed in the EDC.)
Below is a Cost and Royalty Comparison between the Standard and Pro
Plans.
(List price shown only for comparison, our price will be different)

Standard PlanPro Plan
CS eStoreAmazonCS eStoreAmazonEDC
List Price$16.00$16.00$16.00$16.00$16.00
CS Share$7.70$10.90$5.85$9.05$12.25
AIS Royalty$8.30$5.10$10.15$6.95$3.75

We can choose which channels we activate for our sales.
Costs (Trade Paperback)
Standard account  no charge
Pro Plan  $39.90 first year, $5.00 per year thereafter
Estimated unit manufacturing cost (794 pages plus covers, 6 X 9 trim ) -
$10.37
Costs (Hardback)
Conversion to hardback - $199.00
Estimated unit manufacturing cost - $18.41


Jody has gotten some quotes for small run quantities of hardcopy
versions:
Source300 units
per copy/total cost400 Units
per copy/total cost500 units
per copy/total cost
Colorwise press70# satin17.44/$523216.66/$666516.14/$8072
50# uncoated16.47/$494215.70/$627815.18/$7588
DiYa Corporation
(7 days for sample, 35 for final)Includes shipping18.89/$566712.48/ $6240
Book Printing Revolutionplus shipping, $99 set up
fee18.57/$557116.24/$6496
Bookmastersplus shipping16.53/$4959





Benefits of POD
AIS does not have to spend thousands of dollars to have 1200 - 1500
copies of the Check List printed and shipped to the AIS Storefront.
Much faster availability of first printed units.
There is no minimum purchase requirement.
There are no storage requirements for the AIS Storefront, no trips to
storage containers.
We dont have to insure the books against loss or damage (we have in the
past lost the entire stock of a Check List to water damage).
Large heavy cartons of books dont have to be shipped to new storefront
locations.
No risk of loosing money long term by ordering too many copies and having
to sell them at  below cost.
We dont have to worry about continually changing shipping and mailing
charges esp. to foreign addresses. That is all handled by the eStore
process.
We could price the softcover at $17.00 and the Hardcover at $22.00. The
hardcover price would only be a $5.00 over the price of the previous
Check List from 10 years ago. (We ordered 3000 copies of the 1999 Check List. The per unit cost was approximately $4.00, total cost approximately
$12,000 plus shipping.)
Convert publication to Kindle - $69.00


Longer Term
We could, for minimum cost, convert previous Check Lists to POD and
eliminate all the costs of maintaining storage of them.
We could publish a complete copy of an updated and corrected Registrar
database.
Disadvantages
Might be slightly more expensive for purchasers.

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