Re: Motion regarding purchase of Magazine Binders


I tend to agree with Cheryl.  We need to poll the affiliates before we
purchase a number of binders that we will not be able to sell.

My 2 cents.

Paul




On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:40:18 -0700 cheryl deaton
<region15kids@hotmail.com> writes:
> 
> From what I have read we have a committment for approximately 70 
> binders which is not even close to breaking even.  I seriously doubt 
> that we would sell the 40+ at the convention, since most of our 
> sales are to AIS Board and Committee Chairs, so spending this money 
> prematurely seems like a very risky position.  Add to that the cost 
> of mailing the unsold batch from Madison to Oregon would add to the 
> cost.  Let's just get smart and revisit this option after doing a 
> thorough survey of the affiliates.  At that time we would have a 
> better idea of the numbers that would sell so that we could take 
> advantage of a larger order, if warrented.
> 
> Cheryl
>  
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:31:42 -0400
> > From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> > 
> > I agree with John that if we decide to do this then we could have 
> a partial shipment to Madison. Also Rita has agreed to pick up those 
> that are not sold. I do not know whether I mentioned it before but 
> they ship boxed binders in larger boxes of 18 and unboxed binders in 
> bozes of 36. a Box of unboxed binders might be best to ship to the 
> convention. So far I believe I counted at least 47 binders that 
> would be ordered from people on this list. If the affiliates were 
> offered this option from the affiliates e-list I would expect taking 
> pre orders until the end of April would allow the crtical number to 
> be presold that would make this a cost free venture for AIS. If we 
> have inventory left it would be cost free and could sell later at a 
> profit.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kay ludi" <kludi@juno.com>
> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:06:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> > 
> > Hi again,
> > We are back home. We need to include a price for 
> international/overseas
> > orders.
> > The following are taken from the USPS International mailing price 
> list
> > (First Class Postage) for a 32 oz package.
> > New Zealand $16.99
> > Netherlands, Great Briton, Australia, France, Italy $17.64
> > Canada $8.93 (AIS Region 16 but at the Post Office-an
> > international country for postage). 
> > 
> > What is the total number for commitments for purchase at this 
> time? Of
> > the total number, how many would want delivery at Madison. Looking 
> at
> > logistics, I would encourage a partial shipment to Madison and the 
> bulk
> > to Oregon. Since the Ludi's are flying this time, all AIS 
> Storefront
> > items will be shipped to Madison; any not sold items will be 
> shipped back
> > to Oregon. 
> > John & Kay Ludi
> > AIS Storefront
> > 
> > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:20:39 -0700 "William Plotner"
> > <gardens@molalla.net> writes:
> > > Postage on a package from 1 to 2 pounds is as follows:
> > > 
> > > Parcel Post $4.90 to $8.09 depending on the zone.
> > > Priority Mail $5.00 to $9.55 depending on the zone
> > > 
> > > Will
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> > > To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:59 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> > > Binders
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >I have a call in to the binder company but the sales person is 
> out 
> > > at the 
> > > >moment. The receptionist gave me this information. Binders 
> shipped 
> > > in bulk 
> > > >are in boxes of 36 and that box weighes 38 pounds. Binders 
> shipped 
> > > 
> > > >prepackaged are shipped in boxes of 16 and that box weighes 25 
> > > pounds. I 
> > > >would assume that a box of one unit would weigh approximately 
> 1.5 
> > > pounds. 
> > > >Will Plotner or John Ludi could probably give us an idea of 
> what 
> > > postage 
> > > >might average on such a unit box. Remember it would be somewhat 
> 
> > > over 8 and 
> > > >a half by eleven.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jill Bonino" <aistreas@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org, aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:45:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> 
> > > Eastern
> > > > Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine 
> > > Binders
> > > >
> > > > If we do this, I agree we should have them in Madison for 
> people 
> > > to take 
> > > > home themselves.
> > > >
> > > > At $7.05 per binder cost (this includes the $.85 each for the 
> > > shipping box 
> > > > and the $150 set up), we could give people at the Convention a 
> 
> > > Special 
> > > > Price of say $9.00. This should cover shipping cost to Madison 
> 
> > > for say 
> > > > 100 of them?? And then the regular price shipped from the 
> > > Storefront could 
> > > > be $10. That gives us $2.95 excess to cover shipping expenses 
> on 
> > > each 
> > > > one. We will not make a lot of money on these, but I think it 
> is 
> > > a 
> > > > goodwill gesture since we chose to change the Bulletin size. 
> Total 
> > > 
> > > > upfront cost would be in the neighborhood of $1400-$1500 for 
> the 
> > > initial 
> > > > 200 order.
> > > >
> > > > Bob, if these are popular, and I believe they will, could we 
> get a 
> > > better 
> > > > discount on say 500 of them when we order the second 
> shipment??
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps when we order the 200 we could have half delivered to 
> the 
> > > Maidson 
> > > > Hotel and the other half sent to the Storefront? Could Madison 
> 
> > > handle 
> > > > storing them until May?
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: kay ludi <kludi@juno.com>
> > > >>Sent: Mar 18, 2010 10:04 AM
> > > >>To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > >>Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine 
> > > Binders
> > > >>
> > > >>Other factors to consider for pricing the binder. What is it 
> going 
> > > to
> > > >>cost to mail/ship a binder to the customer? (At this time 
> without 
> > > knowing
> > > >>the size or weight we would hazard to guess. It would not be
> > > >>classified/shipped as Media Mail (Book rate). What are the 
> > > shipping
> > > >>charges to Madison or the AIS Storefront? We do not think we 
> > > should ship
> > > >>200 to Madison and turn around and have to pay for shipping 
> back 
> > > to the
> > > >>AIS Storefront. We are talking about a bulky item for 
> shipping. If 
> > > the
> > > >>Board decides to purchase the binder, we highly recommend that 
> we 
> > > also
> > > >>purchase the box for shipping. That is going to be a cost 
> whether 
> > > we
> > > >>purchase the box with the binder or if we at the AIS 
> Storefront 
> > > have to
> > > >>purchase a box from another source.
> > > >> According to our figures, 200 binders w/boxes plus the dye 
> cost,
> > > >>purchase price is $7.05 per binder. To this we need to add all 
> 
> > > the
> > > >>shipping/mailing cost.
> > > >>John & Kay Ludi
> > > >>AIS Storefront
> > > >>
> > > >>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:19:35 -0700 "William Plotner"
> > > >><gardens@molalla.net> writes:
> > > >>> Just as a note....Most of these binders sell for from $12.00 
> to
> > > >>> $15.00 each
> > > >>> and the cost should be covered fairly quickly (with the 
> first 
> > > 120
> > > >>> sold)
> > > >>> after that there would be profit (aprox $1000.00 on the 
> first 
> > > 200)
> > > >>> and more
> > > >>> profit after that as the dyes will only be charged the first 
> 
> > > time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Will
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >>> From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> > > >>> To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:03 AM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine
> > > >>> Binders
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Magazine Binders
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I surfed the internet for magazine binders and all the 
> > > publishers
> > > >>> I found
> > > >>> > offering these get them from the same source and are very
> > > >>> satisfied with
> > > >>> > that company. That firm, Rogers Looseleaf provided me with 
> a 
> > > bid
> > > >>> for 200
> > > >>> > binders. They would be dark blue with gold printing 
> saying: 
> > > The
> > > >>> American
> > > >>> > Iris Society, Quarterly Bulletin and the insignia of AIS 
> > > printed
> > > >>> on the
> > > >>> > spine. There would be a one time charge of $150 for 
> creating 
> > > the
> > > >>> dye. Each
> > > >>> > unit cost would be $5.45. If we desire cardboard shipping 
> > > boxes
> > > >>> > individually packed they are an additional $0.85 each
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > It is true that we have a budget crunch. But we have also 
> put 
> > > into
> > > >>> place
> > > >>> > measures to compensate. We will only increase membership 
> by
> > > >>> providing the
> > > >>> > services expected of a 21st century organization. Efforts 
> are
> > > >>> being made
> > > >>> > to get us there. It is true this is a minor issue. But 
> then 
> > > again
> > > >>> if we
> > > >>> > can not offer services like this for fear of loosing money 
> 
> > > than
> > > >>> what
> > > >>> > products can we sell that can bring in money? I believe 
> this 
> > > is a
> > > >>> modest
> > > >>> > investment in inventory and could potential make a few 
> bucks.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>> > From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
> > > >>> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:34:29 PM GMT -05:00 
> > > US/Canada
> > > >>> Eastern
> > > >>> > Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> > > Magazine
> > > >>> Binders
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Ok, would somebody stick a dollar sign on these things?
> > > >>> > Are there options?
> > > >>> > I'm sure that quantity plays a role.
> > > >>> > Yes, we have to charge enough to get us out of trouble 
> > > quickly.
> > > >>> > Terry
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > >>> [mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
> > > >>> > On Behalf Of Michelle Snyder
> > > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:03 PM
> > > >>> > To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> > > >>> > Subject: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine
> > > >>> Binders
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Bob Pries moved and Rita Gormley seconded the below 
> motion. 
> > > As
> > > >>> such, it
> > > >>> > is now open for discussion.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > "That AIS offer Magazine binders for the bulletin."
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Michelle Snyder
> > > >>> > AIS Secretary
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> 
> > > 
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