Re: Motion regarding purchase of Magazine Binders

Put me down for 2 and I will pick them up in Madison.

Paul



On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:33:31 -0700 "William Plotner"
<gardens@molalla.net> writes:
> I  have a better idea....why don't we just take a poll of the people 
> in this group by answering two questions...
> 
> 1.  Would you buy this binder if it were made available?
> 
> 2.  How many would you purchase at the preorder price?
> 
> remember now that we only need to get to 120 to pay for this.
> 
> I'll gladly start ...  I will take two personally for myself  and 
> commit that the Library will also take two as using them would save 
> on binding them later.
> 
> that's 4 to start with.
> 
> who else.
> 
> All My Best
> Will
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: cheryl deaton 
>   To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org 
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:13 AM
>   Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> 
> 
>   I was not trying to burst anyone's bubble regarding the binders, 
> but in this time of fiscal responsibility I do question spending 
> money on something that I feel only a few would appreciate and 
> purchase.  It isn't as if we cannot go forward at a later date and 
> reconsider this purchase when we might have better information about 
> it.  Since we just started with the new format, many members may not 
> even think about storage until they have a year's worth or more of 
> the Bulletin.  As a member of the Median Iris Society I have 
> received The Medianite for years and even though it is already has 
> holes punched for ease of placing in a binder, I usually keep very 
> few issues and give the others away to encourage growing medians.  
> Just because another plant society does something doesn't mean we 
> need to do the same.  Why don't we take some time and look into more 
> than one option for storing our Bulletins?
>   Cheryl
>    
> 
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>   Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:01:27 -0400
>   From: robertpries@embarqmail.com
>   To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>   Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> 
> 
>   It is very easy to take a bulletin to an office store and get them 
> drilled with holes and purchase a three ring binder and to then make 
> your own cover I do this with other AIS section publications and see 
> no reason why we should offer something that is easily done. On the 
> other hand you can not go to a office store and get a printed 
> magazine binder if you wanted to. That has to be contracted for. The 
> point is not to reduce options but to create more options. No one is 
> insisting that those that do not want to spend the money do so. But 
> the logic of not offering something because some, even most people 
> would not want it seems sad. It only would take the sale of 114 
> binders at the $12 price to break even. There are many members that 
> would probably order two. So if the majority who do not want it, 
> would wish to keep the minority (which could be as low as 60 people 
> with no cost to AIS) from having it, than I think that would be sad. 
> Just because one person does not like yellow irises that does not 
> mean the rest of us should stop growing them. This is why I 
> suggested a pre-printing off to see if we could get the 114 sales 
> need to make this a no cost to AIS venture. It does not take away 
> other people options to treat the magazine however they wish. Those 
> that just throw it away should not care what the rest of us do with 
> it.
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "K Brewitt" <just1moreiris@gmail.com>
>   To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>   Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:16:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern
>   Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> 
> 
> 
>   For the record, they were the wire-type binders. 
>   However, having read Cheryl Deaton's note, I will mention that one 
> of our members was rather incensed to think that after the AIS 
> changed the format of its Bulletin it would ask its members spend 
> more money to buy binders to store them.  He suggested the Bulletin 
> come with 3-holes for storing in a binder like The Medianite.  This 
> way members who choose to save their bulletins can recycle old 
> binders or buy cheap ones from the dollar-store.  And I thought he 
> made a good point when he asked, how many actually save their 
> bulletins in this throw away world?  
>   I wonder how many others feel like this member and how many feel 
> like Cheryl's members i.e. they won't buy?
>   What if RVPs or Affiliate Presidents were asked to poll their 
> members to see if there is a market?  
>   Kate
> 
> 
>   On 21 March 2010 18:24, Robert Pries <robertpries@embarqmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>     It sounds like the binders you had before were three hole types 
> with holes punched in the magazines? My experience with the wire 
> type is that once the binder is full it performs very much like a 
> bound book. Slip cases are another way of doing something but 
> generally one can get these generically at places like Office Depot. 
> I have used those also, but they are not as elegant looking on a 
> book shelf and since they are available on their own people could 
> always find them and buy them. The slipcase is probably not as 
> durable as these binders. 
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "K Brewitt" <just1moreiris@gmail.com>
>     To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> 
>     Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:02:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern
>     Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Has any other binder-type item been investigated?  A gardening 
> magazine I subscribe to offers a slipcase that holds one year (or 7 
> editions)...think of a box that holds a set of books or videos.  A 
> slipcase makes for a sturdier holder.  The magazine in question used 
> to sell binders, which I used to purchase, however after 4 I decided 
> they didn't sit steadily on a bookself i.e. the binder kept opening 
> as there was nothing to keep the front and back covers securely in 
> place.  Also, with the open top, the magazines get dusty and the 
> uneven surface is a challenge to dust.  A slipcase would have a flat 
> surface and protect the bulletins from dust.
>     Just throwing in my 2 cents of experience,
>     Kate Brewitt
>     AIS Region 16 RVP
> 
> 
>     On 18 March 2010 19:44, Janet Smith <ypauls@sti.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>       Depending on the price - I may purchase 2 or I might purchase 
> 5.
>       If they are $20 each ---- 2 if they are $12-15 each 5.
>       Since I am not going to Madison, guess I would be paying 
> postage from
>       Storefront.
> 
>       Janet
> 
>       P.S.  I would be using them for other mags I have.
> 
> 
> 
>       ---- Original Message ----
>       From: gardens@molalla.net
>       To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
> 
>       Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine
>       Binders
> 
>       Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:19:35 -0700
> 
>       >Just as a note....Most of these binders sell for from $12.00 
> to
>       >$15.00 each
> 
>       >and the cost should be covered fairly quickly (with the first 
> 120
>       >sold)
>       >after that there would be profit (aprox $1000.00 on the first 
> 200)
>       >and more
>       >profit after that as the dyes will only be charged the first 
> time.
>       >
>       >Will
>       >
>       >
>       >----- Original Message -----
> 
>       >From: "Robert Pries" <robertpries@embarqmail.com>
> 
>       >To: <aisdiscuss@aisboard.org>
>       >Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:03 AM
>       >Subject: Re: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine
>       >Binders
>       >
>       >
>       >>
> 
>       >> Magazine Binders
>       >>
>       >> I surfed the internet for magazine binders and all the 
> publishers I
>       >found
>       >> offering these get them from the same source and are very 
> satisfied
>       >with
>       >> that company. That firm, Rogers Looseleaf  provided me with 
> a bid
>       >for 200
>       >> binders. They would be dark blue with gold printing saying: 
> The
>       >American
>       >> Iris Society, Quarterly Bulletin and the insignia of AIS 
> printed on
>       >the
>       >> spine. There would be a one time charge of $150 for 
> creating the
>       >dye. Each
>       >> unit cost would be $5.45. If we desire cardboard shipping 
> boxes
>       >> individually packed they are an additional $0.85 each
>       >>
>       >> It is true that we have a budget crunch. But we have also 
> put into
>       >place
>       >> measures to compensate. We will only increase membership by
>       >providing the
>       >> services expected of a 21st century organization. Efforts 
> are being
>       >made
>       >> to get us there. It is true this is a minor issue. But then 
> again
>       >if we
>       >> can not offer services like this for fear of loosing money 
> than
>       >what
>       >> products can we sell that can bring in money? I believe 
> this is a
>       >modest
>       >> investment in inventory and could potential make a few 
> bucks.
>       >>
>       >> ----- Original Message -----
>       >> From: "Terry Aitken" <terry@flowerfantasy.net>
>       >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>       >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:34:29 PM GMT -05:00 
> US/Canada
>       >Eastern
>       >> Subject: RE: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of 
> Magazine
>       >Binders
>       >>
>       >> Ok, would somebody stick a dollar sign on these things?
>       >> Are there options?
>       >> I'm sure that quantity plays a role.
>       >> Yes, we have to charge enough to get us out of trouble 
> quickly.
>       >> Terry
>       >>
>       >> -----Original Message-----
>       >> From: owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>       >[mailto:owner-aisdiscuss@aisboard.org]
>       >> On Behalf Of Michelle Snyder
>       >> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:03 PM
>       >> To: aisdiscuss@aisboard.org
>       >> Subject: [AISdiscuss] Motion regarding purchase of Magazine 
> Binders
>       >>
>       >> Bob Pries moved and Rita Gormley seconded the below motion. 
>  As
>       >such, it
>       >> is now open for discussion.
>       >>
>       >> "That AIS offer Magazine binders for the bulletin."
>       >>
>       >> Michelle Snyder
>       >> AIS Secretary
>       >>
>       >>
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